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Top value holding trap guns on the market?

Discussion in 'Shooting Related Threads' started by subaru, Jan 9, 2009.

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  1. subaru

    subaru TS Member

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    There was a thread earlier about how bad the resale on SKB and Ljutic trap guns is. So that brings up the question. What do you all think the top 5 brands would be for someone who is looking to buy but does not want to take a huge hit on value? And lets keep this to the main stream brands. I know Holland & Holland holds value very well but I have never seen one on a trap line.

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  2. Jawhawker

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    BT99-870-1100-302thru391 series-Tm1
     
  3. cubancigar2000

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    I think pheasantmaster is pretty close. Rem 31 and Win Mod 12 could be in there somewhere
     
  4. Hitapair

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    The better question may be of the trapguns costing in excess of $3000, which hold their value the best. When you look at what a new 1100 and a new 870 cost and what you can be a used one for, their % drop in value isn't all that different than the high ticket guns.
     
  5. MilCon

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    You stated that SKB and Ljutic trap guns do not hold up in value when sold used based upon the new prices.

    Look at it in a different way. If you buy used then they hold up the best since they are worth what you payed used for them.

    Say you get a Ljutic for ~2500. and later decide to get rid of it , it is still worth ~ 2500 or so .
    A new P or K gun is ~10000- 18000 and will sell used for 75000-13000.

    I would much rather take a 100 or 200 loss on a gun than a 3500- 5000 loss.
     
  6. Gary Waalkes

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    I'm with MilCon. You buy a brand new higher end gun and then decide you are going to sell after a year or two, you will take a real beating - the brand name doesn't matter. You don't have to believe me, just check a few used prices yourself.
     
  7. W.P.T.

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    Winchester Model 12's not only hold their value, they increase in value over the years if unmolested ... Perazzi TM-1 has been on the rise price wise if you can find a really nice one that is unmolested ... I have found that if you are selling a gun its never worth what you think it is until the deal is done, then it worth even more ... WPT ... (YAC) ...
     
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    The used target shotgun market is very "thin", especially for limited production guns. The time of year also is a factor...NOW is an excellent time to buy. The trend of the $US vs foreign currencies (esp.the Euro) is also an important factor. If your intention is to buy new, I'd look at the less expensive models from quality manufacturers, like the KX-5 and the Kolar TS. And Brownings are excelent values for the $$$...even new, as are the less embellished Guerinis. The comment on buying a used Ljutic is a good one, since they last forever and seem to stay around the $2500 to $3500 price range...except the stainless models do seem to command somewhat stronger prices.

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  9. Jawhawker

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    MilCon, you can't compare the dollars lost of buying a "used" ljutic against a new Perrazi or Kgun. Its used against used or new against new. The thing with a P or K gun is that you can actually resale them. A Ljutic (yes I have owned them) is a tough item to resale!
     
  10. jakearoo

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    I have never understood why trapshooters would buy a new gun. There are always plenty of very good used ones on the market and if bought correctly, they DO hold their value.
     
  11. MilCon

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    Phesantmaster- Point well taken.

    What I was trying to get across to the original question was ( A well kept used gun can be a good investment if a person is just getting into the sport and wants a "tricked out or specific type of gun"

    On that note I would love to get a new K80 combo trap with ultra high rib but as life stands 18K is to much. I think there was one on here for sale for ~12K but alas that is also to steep.

    On another note - Anyone know of a old break top Ljutic Space gun for sale- Always wanted to try shooting that one.

    Looks like I will have to stay with my old IAB 3 barrel set with adj ramps, it still smokes those targets.
     
  12. Barry C. Roach

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    why are ljutics so hard to sell? they have to be one of the best guns ever made.thanks dwain
     
  14. KEYBEAR

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    MilCon That Break top LJutic is not a space gun but a Salka (sp)
     
  15. John Thompson

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    Another consideration is area, the east coast is a better market for K guns. I have a TMX I bought new for $1695. with a receipt from C.C. Seitz(Tom)for barrel tuning. I beleive this gun to be worth over $4000. Ljutics I have owned in the mid west sell but take more time than similar guns. I have been told some of the specialty guns (Cole for example) can not be given away. Try and sell a DiSimone, a fine gun but just try.
     
  16. ec90t

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    I've always liked the value of a good used 682X. These can be had in all sorts of configurations and it seems like they sell for what I paid for them 3 or 4 years later. Shoot, I think I even made a little on a 682X unsingle combo that I sold a few years back.

    I also like the value of a good 90T. They come back into vogue every couple of years and everyone has to have one. I may buy another HPAR one of these days.

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  17. ljutic73

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    Long tern ownership is the key to getting your money's worth. I bought by Ljutic used in ;83 for $2100....and I've spent about $1000 restocking it (twice) and getting it reblued....and I ain't lookin' to sell it anytime soon...
     
  18. shadow

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    The last 90T I had cost me $1500. I kept it for about 5 years and shot the snot out of it before it was sold for $2500. Not too shabby a deal.
     
  19. Hap MecTweaks

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    The Perazzi TM-1 sold new for $395.00 with some even less in the very early 70s, take a gander what good used one's go for today? I agree with WPT. Hap
     
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