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  1. TomJ

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    I would appreciate responses from those of you who have experience reloading using Titegroup. Specifically,

    1) Is Titegroup suitable for use in 1 oz. loads? I am currently loading 16.5 gr. of 700X, in AA cases, DownRange DRRT12 wads, with Noble Sport primers.

    2) Is it suitable for loading 1 1/8 oz. loads. How does it compare with, lets say, GreenDot?

    3) Or option #3 am I better off sticking with the old standards, i.e., 700X and GreenDot?

    Thanks in advance for your comments.
    Tom
     
  2. bkt514

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    I think you will find the data on Hodgdon Powders web-site. It appears to have some of the same performance data as Alliant Powder products. Alliant's Green Dot and American Select appear to be similar in their performance data vs. Hodgdon TiteGroup. I like both Green Dot and American Select.
     
  3. BILL GRILL

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    I don't think you will reload 1 oz with titegroup. You have to use a 1oz wad with 1 1/8 oz loads as there is so little powder. It loads a kick a$$ 1 1/8 oz handi-cap load.
     
  4. slide action

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    I used it for a good while. It makes a fantastic 1 oz. load,however,you will need to use a 7/8 oz. wad to take up the space,since it is a very fine and dense powder.
     
  5. Sky Buster

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    This info is direct from Ron Reiber at Hodgdon.
    When using Titegroup, use a 1 oz wad for 1 1/8 oz loads.
    For 1 oz. loads use 7/8 oz wad.
     
  6. Avaldes

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    TG is an excellent powder. I agree with the guys above. Got turned onto it in order to make Nitro27 clones (TGT12 wad, Titegroup powder, R209 primer). It seems to burn very clean and cool in temperature. It doesn't burn hulls nearly as fast as other powders.

    I like Green Dot for its performance, but I don't like how much black residue it leaves on the action of my gun and on my reloader. TG doesn't do that.

    I do load both 1oz and 1 1/8th oz with Titegroup, according to the recipes in Hogdon's manual. The only note is that you want to use TGT12 wads instead of Fig8s. That is because they are taller and take up the space that would be left due to the low bulk of TG. You can certainly load Fig8 wads but the crimp will be dished.

    I only wish there was published recipes for TG and Federal Papers. Might be an excellent combo.
     
  7. TomJ

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    Thanks to everyone for the excellent information, it's exactly what I was hoping to obtain. Thanks again,
    Tom
     
  8. Scott Johnson

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    I use tightgroup 16 grains, TGT wad 1 1/8 oz # 8's for singles(1150fps), Remy hulls. And I use 18 grains tightwad, TGT wad, 1 1/8 oz #7.5's for long caps Remy hulls (1240 fps). Clean burning, I like it. YMMV Scott
     
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    I used ir for a while in AAHS hulls since they tend to be a little on the low capacity side to begin with, with green dusters, if I recall right, for 1 oz loads. I think I loaded them to about 1235 fps.

    They worked fine.
     
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    Titegroup works very well in the 12 ga. My Dillon 1050 seems to gobble this powder up for pistol ammo, but it leaves me Red Dot. LOL
     
  11. goatskin

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    @ alvedes: <i>I only wish there was published recipes for TG and Federal Papers. Might be an excellent combo.</i>

    'Published' is the keyword there, I think. The next 'keyword; is crimp.

    I loaded some 24gm Hummingbird & Bumblebee loads using TG & nickle #8½ in Federal Papers translating American Select International data (they are pretty close to the same 'Hot') for FGM.

    Even with the longest wads I had: T-2, REX, Spark, the crimps were deeper than most prefer, and I ended up roll crimping them, IIRC.

    Across a chrono, there were sprightly, ~1400fps, and I was picking pigeons off the top of a grain elevator, but I'm not sure they had enough pressure to cycle an 1100.

    They were special, alright, but not really worth the extra work to make everything look pretty.

    Bob
     
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    I started with it to make Nitro clones also.

    18.2 in a Remington hull with a Downrange XL-1 wad. I have done some one ounce also and they are great as long as you use a tall wad. You could also drop in a 20 gauge Nitro card if you have them.

    I use Titewad behind an ounce for 16yd and skeet. Keeping 2 powders is not a problem since I am used to keeping about a dozen rifle and pistol powders.

    HM
     
  13. Johnny

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    16.5gr of 700x is a nice load, I would stick with that.
     
  14. 4th. down

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    Titegroup in a Fed. hull, 1 1/8 oz? - anyone tried it?
     
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    <i>Titegroup in a Fed. hull, 1 1/8 oz? - anyone tried it?</i>

    I'm sure somebody has. It's a good medium-slow powder: think AS, GD, PB, U&U, HS-6 ... but it takes a very small volume of it to make a load - smaller volume than any of those others.

    The issue is FIT and getting the right wad that will crimp. 12S0, maybe? or a 7/8 wad?

    It would work, go boom and break birds, TG is just a hard component fit because of volumes.

    Bob
     
  16. 4th. down

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    Thanks Bob and more specific:

    Fed. Game & Target Hull
    Rio Primer
    1 1/8 oz. shot
    DRXL-1 Wad
    18 grs. Titegroup powder
    approx. 1250fps.

    (21.5 grs. of Green Dot makes the load too tight and some open up the crimps).

    No problems with the components using Green Dot in a FGM hull or Euro trash.
     
  17. goatskin

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    Yep 4th, between you, me and Shooting Coach, we [heart]
    misc Eurotrash Hulls.
     
  18. rennerize

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    I have an excellent 27 yard load in the top gun and rio type shells. But it is not published so I hesitate to give it out here.
    Don
     
  19. ImpalaBob

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    Like Halfmile ... I also prefer Titewad to Titegroup.
     
  20. Shooting Coach

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    What Goat said. LOL
     
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