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Tite Group Powder ???

Discussion in 'Uncategorized Threads' started by black lab, May 30, 2007.

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  1. black lab

    black lab TS Member

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    Does anyone out there load Tite Group powder with Federal primers. If you do what kind of speed and pressure are you getting. I know the duplicate for the Nitro calls for a rem primer but I have about 20,000 federals I want to get rid of first.
     
  2. ec90t

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    There is no load data for Titegroup using Federal primers. The only two primers that have any data are Remington and Wincheseter.

    I have contacted Hodgdon and I'm waiting for a reply about any info on the usage of other primers for firing Titegroup. I will post this info when they send it to me.

    ec90t
     
  3. timb99

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    ec90t,

    I recommend calling them. Works much better than e-mail, which you may or may not get a prompt reply.
     
  4. ec90t

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    Timb99,
    I just a reply from Mike Daly at Hodgdon and he stated that a CCI209M primer could be substituted for a Remington 209 in my recipe.

    I shoot 18gr of Titegroup in a Remington hull with a tgt-12s wad and either 1 oz or 1 1/8th oz of shot. I don't shoot anything closer than the 25yd line so I have no use for a load any lighter than that.

    I always thought that CCI primers were a little hotter than either Remington or Winchester 209's. I will load a few and give them a try.

    ec90t
     
  5. black lab

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    Thanks for replying ec90t. I know there isn't a recipe out there using the Federal primers. I was just wondering if anyone has tried it and what were their results.
     
  6. grunt

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    You may need to reduce the powder drop. Some powders drop a grain less when a Fed primer is used because its a hotter primer.
     
  7. ec90t

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    kx-5,

    I will sometimes play around a little with powders and primers to get a "pet load". Titegroup develops too much pressure change with very little increses with powder drops that makes it a little to scary to play with. I would like to see some info come around for straight hull loads using Titegroup.

    ec90t
     
  8. halfmile

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    I would not use 209M primers with Titegroup till someone tested a batch.

    The Nitro duplicate loads are right up there. I Would use Cheddites and have used Fiocchi but I think the 209M is hotter.

    I mostly use Remington If I can find them.

    HM
     
  9. ec90t

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    I'm with you Halfmile. If the info didn't come from Hodgdon, I'd be skeptical.

    ec90t
     
  10. Quack Shot

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    Titegroup powder seems to develop some fairly high pressures in some loads. I'd be careful about swapping to a hotter primer like the Federal 209A without some reliable data. You could always load up a batch and send them out for pressure and velocity testing. I would personally just buy the right primers for the load I want use and reserve the Federals for loads that I have data for. You could always try to trade them with someone for a more appropriate primer. I would be very cautious about following ANY advice that recommends a direct replacement with the Remington primer, or even the Winchester.
     
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