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TIRES - WATCH THIS - IT COULD SAVE YOUR LIFE

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  1. markdenis

    markdenis TS Member

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    Interesting video and typical of government corruption.
     
  2. Bruce Specht

    Bruce Specht Well-Known Member

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    I was unable to open the video, but the text was accurate. The tire companies and the associations all agree that a tire should be no more that 6 yeras old and still used for highway use. I spent 30 years in the industry and have seen people with tires on their vehicles that wera 10 yeras old or older and wonder why they had no traction or blow outs. Tire companies will not warranty a tire that is over 6 yeras old nor should they. If you want to know the date a tire was made look at the last 3 digits of the DOT # example 307 would tell you that the tire was built the 30th week of 2007. Replace your tires every 5 years wheter they need it or not!
     
  3. SeldomShoots

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    Mark, its not only government corruption, but the corrupt head honchos at the corporations manufacturing the tires and selling them. I guess if they sell their old tires the CEO's can bigger multi-million salaries and stock options, at the expense and danger to the consumer. John Ertel
     
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    I have no doubt the report is accurate. What the report doesn't say is how long did the retailer have the tires in stock before they were sold?

    Eric
     
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    When markdowns or sales are in the works, this is the time to check carefully.

    I'm sure the old stock goes out first.

    HM
     
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  7. Maytag

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    According to the video, the code of "307" would mean the 30th. week of 1997. That is how I understand it. "3007" would be 30th. week of 2007.
     
  8. skeeljc

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    Rubber products last much longer than they used to. Belts and hoses now last more than 10 years and 100,000 miles. Buy GOOD tires from a dealer that sells LOTS of tires. I wonder what Michelin would say about the useful life of a tire?

    Jim Skeel
     
  9. ShawnaTX

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    And be careful when buying a new vehicle....they will try to sell you one with cheap tires that do not get many miles before wearing out. I always make that one of the deal breakers. If they won't give me good, quality tires...no deal.
     
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    Watch the dates codes and look for signs of oxidation and deterioration, espescially in the sidewalls. Storage in high heat can also age a tire rapidly. Same goes for your climate after they have been installed on your vehicle. I change tires whenever they show any signs of deterioration. It's not worth the risk.
     
  11. cf4952

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    Michelin says 10 years max service life. British say tires older than 6 years shouldn’t be sold, not removed from service. Big difference.
    I am a small independent tire dealer. We don’t sell tires with DOT numbers over 2 years if possible. Sometimes it may not be.
    We constantly are recommending that tires be removed due to age and/or weathering, even with substantial treads left. This is frequent on cars that have limited driving.
    And I am constantly being told that I’m trying to “Rip off” people for doing so. “Mom doesn’t drive than much, don’t scare her” or “It’s only my wife’s car, she just takes the kids to school and back”
    I think it’d be great if everyone had to buy new tires every 5 years, regardless of tread depth or condition. My business would benefit greatly! Call your congressman!
    But don’t whine when that ’06 Chevy (with ‘05 tires) have to be replaced with 8/32nd of rubber. Even if you just bought it.
    Bottom line is take responsibility for your own safety and that of your family. Deal with someone you trust, not the cheapest guy.
    Just the other side of the coin.
     
  12. Bruce Specht

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    Michelin does not say ten years that is incorrect! The tire makers and the assocaitons all agree that 6 years is the magic number for highway use tires. As for DOT numbers a tire with 307 would be 30th week of 2007. How to protect yourself from a tire made in 1997? Check and see if the tire model is current is it on the web site for theat maker or does the dealer show it in a current price sheet. Models and tread designs don't stay on the market more than a few 3-4 years.
     
  13. pyrdek

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    Bruce,

    You may want to check with your source for the information you posted about the "307" date code.

    I took a look at tires I had in the garage that were just removed from the car when the snow tires were put on Tuesday. The tires I looked at all had date codes of 3207, 33,07 0r 3507. I know that these summer tires were bought in the early Spring of this year. It appears that 3307 DOES indeed refer to Week 33 of 2007. By extension, "307" would refer to Week 33 of 1997.
     
  14. cf4952

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    Bruce, the DOT codes changed in the year 2000 to a four digit system. Prior to that, they had only three numbers. Last 3 digit number was 529 (52th week of 1999) Check this on the Department of Transportation web site. http://www.dot.gov/
    If your tire dot ends with 3 numbers, get rid of them!
    My statement about Michelin's service life comes from Michelin, not hearsay.
    Cut and paste this to your browser;

    http://www.michelinman.com/media/en-US/pdf/tires/Tire_Service_Life_Technical_Bulletin.pdf#xml=http://uniroyal.com.//pdfhi.txt?query=service+life&pr=michelinman_en_US&prox=page&rorder=500&rprox=500&rdfreq=500&rwfreq=500&rlead=500&sufs=0&order=r&cq=&id=46b2aa594aa

    Can you tell me where your info comes from? Neither TIA nor NTDA have yet to issue a unified statement as to the service life of tires. Or at least that we members have been notified of. What organizations are you referring to? There were several discussions at the SEMA show last year on this topic. Did you attend them? Please enlighten me.
     
  15. shooterIII

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    I just received this email from my sons Brother-inlaw who is a mechanic for Yellow Freight in St Paul, MN.

    Thanks Stan , it's a good reminder as it made me look at my own tires on my truck even though I had them put on last december . Guess what the date of manufacture code was ( 273 ) that means that they were made in the 27th week of 1993. I checked the van and they were manufactured 4304 43rd week of 2004 . I was shocked as we have to pay attention to this code on the truck and trailer tires at work . yellow transportations tires on trucks start out new ,then when they are worn to 4/32 of an inch they get recapped as long as they are not over 5 years old. I checked some trucks and nothing was older than 2007 , alot of the tires on our trucks were manufactured in 2008. If yellows tires are in the 5th year they cannot be in use for linehaul over the road use . So when I got to work today I got the tire policy manual out and read it . It tells us the codes for years and lots of other stuff. Most people don't even know about this and even myself forgot about the tire manufacture date .


    Stan
     
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    None of my 6 month old tires have the DOT info on the outside. Guess I'll have to get under the car to find them on the inside.


    Eric
     
  17. Shotgunbutch

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    Thanks Skeet2daY,

    I just looked at the tires on my vehicles and they are dated in the year I bought the tires. Four are in 04 and the other four are dated 07.

    Arnie
     
  18. mercedesman1981

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    Are all tires supposed to have a date of manufacture code? I just checked my '06 Yukon and there does not appear to be a dated in the format mentioned in the video.

    Mike

    PS, Thanks for posting this Skeet.
     
  19. Bruce Specht

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    CF4952 Michelin tire and the other majors as well as the TIA and Rubber Mfg Association all stated that the tires for passenger and LT for high wya use should be removed at 6 years of service. My inofrmation came from the ITRA whcih combined a few years ago to becmone the TIA I was a staff member of the ITRA. It may have changed over the past few years and if so I stand corrected but I'll do a little research.
     
  20. Bruce Specht

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    CF4953 google search tire warranties the first site that comes up is the Michelin man tires are warrantied for SIX Years pay attention before you spot off
     
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