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Discussion in 'Off Topic Threads' started by wireguy, Aug 7, 2013.

  1. wireguy

    wireguy TS Member

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    In a move some claim is tantamount to social engineering, the Department of Housing and Urban Development is imposing a new rule that would allow the feds to track diversity in America’s neighborhoods and then push policies to change those it deems discriminatory.

    The policy is called, "Affirmatively Furthering Fair Housing." It will require HUD to gather data on segregation and discrimination in every single neighborhood and try to remedy it.

    HUD Secretary Shaun Donovan unveiled the federal rule at the NAACP convention in July.

    "Unfortunately, in too many of our hardest hit communities, no matter how hard a child or her parents work, the life chances of that child, even her lifespan, is determined by the zip code she grows up in. This is simply wrong,” he said.

    Data from this discrimination database would be used with zoning laws, housing finance policy, infrastructure planning and transportation to alleviate alleged discrimination and segregation.

    Specifics of the proposed rule are lacking. Now published in the Federal Register and undergoing a 60-day comment period, the rule, "does not prescribe or enforce specific” policies.

    But one critic says it smacks of utopian idealism.

    "This is just the latest of a series of attempts by HUD to social engineer the American people," said Ed Pinto, of the American Enterprise Institute. "It started with public housing and urban renewal, which failed spectacularly back in the 50's and 60's. They tried it again in the 90's when they wanted to transform house finance, do away with down payments, and the result was millions of foreclosures and financial collapse.”

    Some fear the rule will open the floodgates to lawsuits by HUD -- a weapon the department has already used in places like Westchester County, N.Y., where mayors and attorneys representing several towns, like Cortlandt, are writing HUD to protest burdensome fair housing mandates that go far beyond those agreed to in a 2009 settlement with HUD.

    One letter written by Cortlandt town attorney Thomas Wood expresses a common dilemma.

    "Cordlandt is mostly residential and has only a few vacant parcels that could be developed for commercial use," he writes. "In order to stabilize the tax base amongst the most affordable in Westchester County, the Town Board needs to encourage the development of commercial property for commercial use."

    Rob Astorino, the Westchester County Executive recently said, "What they are trying to do is to say discrimination and zoning is the same thing. They are not. Discrimination won't be tolerated. I won't tolerate it. Zoning though, protects what can and can't be built in a neighborhood."

    Also troublesome to critics is that the HUD secretary, in announcing this proposed rule, blamed poverty on zip codes – rather than other socio-economic factors that studies have shown contribute to poverty

    Read more: http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2013/08/07/obama-administration-using-housing-department-to-compel-diversity-in/#ixzz2bLbs0pi4
     
  2. wireguy

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    Goodbye freedom of association. You WILL share your neighborhood with gangstas and bangers.
     
  3. WS-1

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    To paraphrase Frank Lloyd Wright, "Move as far away from civilization as you can, and then move ten more miles."

    Nobody will ever tell me where I have to live.
     
  4. Don Steele

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    Sec. Donovan's statement that ...."no matter how hard a child or her parents work, the life chances of that child, even her lifespan, is determined by the zip code she grows up in."
    HAS to be one of the most ignorant things I've heard come out of this administration. Easily the most pandering piece of BS they've come up with yet to appeal to the "recipient class".
    Donovan is another Harvard "educated" idiot from New York City. Carried over from the Clinton administration..worked hard for Obama's election in 2008 and was tapped for the top spot based on...?????!!!!! He went to work for Clinton right out of Graduate school. He's NEVER had a real job outside government. It's no wonder he spouts this kind of drivel. He'd be funny if he didn't hold so much POWER.
     
  5. shadow

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    Sounds to me like the Feds are carrying the "busing" to yet another level. Look for a moving van in your neighborhood soon ! You may be one of the LUCKY ones and get transported to W. Chicago or Watts in order to meet the quota.
     
  6. R.Kipling

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    It's fine with me, as long as they start in the DC metro area first, and show us how it's done. There are plenty of recipient's in DC that would love to live in the Maryland and Virginia gated communities next door to their congressmen & women. That I'd pay for.

    Kip
     
  7. birdogs

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    Jack Kemp, the best HUD Secretary ever and one of the authors of the modern conservative movement must be turning over in his grave. Kemp left HUD in the best shape ever. Andrew Cuoma who took over the position later on, left it in shambles and deeply in deficit. Now Cuomo wants to be President. Being a Democrat, his past sins will be overlooked but he will still have to beat Hildabeast.

    As for the policy being implemented, it will require massive subsidies to "integrate" pricey neighborhoods just for the purpose of diversity. This is tantamaount to the Neighborhood Investment Act which brought America to the brink of bankruptcy and caused the evaporation of billions of dollars in real estate values.
     
  8. Bentley998

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    In my neighborhood it will take a minimum of $500K to find a house

    Who pays ?? Obviously the tax payer subsiidizes neighborhood with gangstas and bangers.
     
  9. EuroJoe

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    didn't they call that "redlining" when the banks did it ??
     
  10. rpeerless

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    Chappaqua is where they should start and where is it that Al Gore lives? Nantucket is another great place to begin.
     
  11. darr

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    I moved from BFE to 60 miles from BFE. But I still live in Ca.

    I will say I like my neighbors more but still have disdain for The state.

    The bottom line is we will all be living in Ok or Tx or Ky in 15 years.


    Darr
     
  12. flashmax

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    There once was a man from Nantucket,

    His crank was so long he could suckit.

    He said with a grin as he wiped off his chin,

    If my ear wouldn't snitch I would er, ah, NEVERMIND.



    Don T. Littleton CO