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This is a disgrace

Discussion in 'Politics, Elections & Legislation' started by Barrelbulge(Fl), Oct 30, 2011.

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  1. Barrelbulge(Fl)

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    E mail just as I received it, Bulge.


    I have tried to confirm this at Snopes with no luck, but have confirmed that it was a letter to the editor of the Washington Examiner. In my opinion as a Veteran, it is one of the highest priorities of the Commander-in-Chief to express appreciation for all who served, especially at such a time as this. During my combat tour of duty, I had the responsibility of composing too many appreciation letters to next of kin and always considered it one of my most important duties – not only out of respect but appreciation for the sacrifice made by both the individual and their family. This is one of the most disrespectful things I feel this current administration can do and serves as a notice of their contempt for our nation. We must do everything possible in 2012 to get these people out of office for the sake of our nation!!!





    Letters to the Editor,
    10/14/11







    The president does not honor American soldiers.Today I was incensed at the conclusion of a traditional Serbian-Orthodox funeral for my beloved 85-year-old uncle, Daniel Martich, who proudly served in the U.S. Army
    during the Korean conflict. During the committal service at a
    Pittsburgh cemetery, the local military detachment performed
    their ritual, then folded and presented the United States flag
    to my aunt.
    As I'm sure you have witnessed during military
    funerals, a soldier bends to one knee and recites a scripted
    message to a surviving relative that begins, "On behalf of the
    president of the United States and a grateful nation, I wish to
    present you with this flag in appreciation for your husband's
    service. ..." However, today the dialogue was "On behalf of the
    secretary of defense and a grateful nation ..." After the
    service I approached the soldier who presented the flag to my
    aunt to inquire about the change in language. His response was
    "The White House notified all military funeral service
    detachments to immediately remove 'the president' and insert
    'the secretary of defense.' "
    I couldn't believe what I heard
    and the soldier smiled and said, "You can draw your own
    conclusion sir but that was the order." He, too, was ashamed of
    what he was required to say.
    This president has taken off the
    gloves. My only response to this endless cesspool of anti-U.S.
    rhetoric dripping from his mouth is to borrow a phrase (with one
    minor change) uttered by another temporary Washington resident
    living in government housing: "Today for the first time in my
    adult life I was ashamed of my country." I did not serve
    in the military but my love of country parallels that of people
    like my late uncle who bled red, white and blue. As a
    second-generation Serbian-American whose heritage produced many
    patriotic military men and women who fought for freedom both in
    the United States as well as in the former Yugoslavia (most
    recently in Kosovo against the slaughter of Serbs by Muslim
    extremists) I implore you to make the United States people aware
    of this little-known or, at least, publicly acknowledged
    fact.
    John G. Martich
    Falls Church

    Read more at the Washington Examiner: http://washingtonexaminer.com/opinion/letters-editor/2011/10/letters-editor-oct-14-2011#ixzz1akhBMFZX
     
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    Second questions in the archives
     
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    Second question in archives
     
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    The President and Secretary of Defense were not in the "scripted message" I delivered when presenting the flag at military funerals 35 years ago. We were given some discretion on the things we did and said. Ron
     
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    Look harder on snopes, it's there.
     
  6. Barrelbulge(Fl)

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    Snopes..#8 MRC210 on 10.16.11 at 3:58 pm
    “Partly true”? Did you actually read the snopes article?

    According to the snopes article, if the soldier was a non-commissioned officer, according to regulations he is not permitted to speak for the President. He can speak for the Secretary of Defense. Simple as that.

    The soldier may have left the email writer with the wrong impression or allowed the writer to jump to his own conclusions, but he was correct to say that the White House authorized this policy.

    However, it was the Bush White House.

    Still want to claim that snopes backs up this story?
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    I would rather have them say "On the behalf of a grateful nation" rather than anything to do with Obooho.
     
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    I doubt Obama is truly grateful anyway.
     
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    The procedure below is straight from the current Army Field Manual that prescribes how to conduct the ceremony See chapter 14.

    The link is provided. CAO is casualty assistance officer. I have seen NCO's perform this function as well as officers.


    http://www.gasdf.com/regs/FM_3-21-5_Drill_Ceremonies.pdf


    Upon presentation, the CAO renders appropriate remarks such as, “As a representative of the United States Army, it is my high privilege to present to you this flag. Let it be a symbol of the grateful appreciation our nation feels for the distinguished service rendered to our country and our flag by your
    loved one.”
     
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