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This guy says there won't be any new gun bans

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  1. wireguy

    wireguy TS Member

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    This guy says there won

    http://townhall.com/columnists/kurtschlichter/2012/12/26/liberals-panic-as-they-lose-the-gun-narrative-n1473885/page/full/

    From TOWNHALL:


    Liberals Panic As They Lose the Gun Narrative

    Kurt Schlichter



    Dec 26, 2012


    Liberals Panic As They Lose the Gun Narrative
    When you argue for a living, you can tell how an argument is going for you. The evidence and my gut both tell me that the liberals have lost control of the gun control narrative.

    Not for lack of trying – it was almost as if they were poised to leap into action across the political, media and cultural spectrum the second the next semi-human creep shot up another “gun free zone.” This was their big opening to shift the debate and now it’s closing. They’ve lost, and they are going nuts.

    The evidence is all around that this is not going to be the moment where America begins a slide into disarmed submission through an endless series of ever-harsher “reasonable restrictions” on our fundamental rights. You just have to look past the shrieking media harpies to see what’s really happening.

    Let’s start with the most obvious omen that this tsunami has peaked. President Obama thrilled his base by grandstanding at the memorial, and then promptly washed his hands of it by handing it over to a “blue ribbon commission.” Making Joe Biden its chairman was like staking a vampire through the heart, then hosing him down with holy water before burying his body beneath the Gilroy Garlic Festival.

    Why does Obama want this gun thing buried? While intensely popular with metrosexual pundits, coastal liberals, and cultural bigots slobbering at the opportunity to stick it to those banjo –strummin’, God-believers out in the hinterlands, gun control remains poison to Red State Democrats.

    Joe Manchin of West Virginia couldn’t resist some sanctimonious posturing, but clearly he heard enough from his constituents to sprint-back his heresy with a WaPo op-ed explaining how awesome the NRA is and how groovy gun owners are. He will never take sides against the family again.

    We didn’t see the Red State Democrats up for re-election in two years out dumping on their constituents to please the media. Call it “the Fredo Effect,” and 2014 is the rowboat. We won’t hear from the likes of Senators Landrieu, Pryor and Begich until they vote “No.”

    Sure, Senator Feinstein will submit her gun ban wish list to Harry Reid, who will look at it sagely, nod politely, and let it die. He’s more Tom Hagen than Fredo. He is going to retain the NRA “A” rating his website proudly showcases regardless of what Chuck Schumer thinks. What gets you hosannas in Manhattan gets you unemployed in Searchlight.

    So, the politicians’ actions have spoken louder than their words, but what of the media? We lawyers always say that when your case is strong, pound on the law and the evidence, and when your case is weak, pound on the table. The furniture is splintering in Liberalland.

    Their post-Newtown strategy was always to prevent an effective response from the pro-gun freedom side by both rapid action and by demonization. But the holidays and the kabuki theater that is the fiscal cliff drama meant that legislative action, their Holy Grail, would have to wait. That gave people time to think and the gun freedom side the time to react.

    Demonizing those who support gun freedom was always intended as a weapon to silence them. It was also critical that we, law-abiding gun owners, become the Other. By dehumanizing us and painting us as evil, it is that much easier to strip us of our rights.

    But gun freedom advocates fought back. Using the mainstream media, conservative media and especially social media – we need to understand its huge significance here – gun freedom advocates countered liberals’ bogus “facts.” Media reports about “automatic” weapons were corrected, clownish statements about “high caliber magazines” and “large capacity round” were mocked. The struggle raged over millions of Facebook posts. The average citizen saw gun banners ask “When will America control access to weapons?” and then saw several experts among his or her friends post about the significant hurdles one needs to get over to get a gun. Truth bypassed the mainstream media and became a weapon for the side of fundamental rights.

    The banners overplayed their hand, losing credibility with every distortion, evasion and smear. The cries of “Blood is on your hands!” failed to resonate – reasonable Americans just did not blame the actions of a single sociopath on millions of their fellow neighbors. And it did not help when third-string celebrities and wizened literary has-beens took to hoping gun rights advocates would be shot for daring to oppose disarmament.

    The gun banners also counted on a narrative that portrayed a respect for the Second Amendment. They sought only “reasonable restrictions” – why, no one wants to ban or confiscate your guns! The problem was one of memo distribution – not everybody got that memo. Mayor Bloomberg was putting out that what few guns he might graciously deign to leave in the hands of the unworthy would be starved of bullets, while Governor Cuomo acknowledged that confiscation was one of the options.

    Oops. “Gun control” is a process that is designed and intended to lead to a total gun ban, and the banners are counting on people not realizing it.

    Their credibility and motives already in question, the gun banners became vulnerable to a shift in the paradigm from depriving law-abiding citizens of effective defensive weapons to the idea of protecting kids with armed personnel in schools.

    Suddenly, the gun banners had to argue two ridiculous positions. The first was that allowing trained educators or police having weapons in schools is a danger. The problem is that people generally like and trust teachers and cops. The second position was even worse, that armed personnel or police are somehow utterly useless against untrained, amateur creeps who seek to confront six-year olds. All over America, millions of parents noted how none of the wealthy gun banners were disbanding their personal security teams and thought, “You know, I think I’d like having a cop around my kid too.”

    Frustration at the fact that their argument had not been unquestioningly accepted morphed into faux moral outrage that their opponents had dared offer any alternative proposal at all. E.J. Dionne of the WaPo was a prime example. He had to “grope for words to describe the National Rifle Association’s proposal,” yet he managed to find some: “Absurd, unbelievable, tragic, obscene,” as well as “insane.”

    Note that Dionne’s righteous fury does not apply to the armed guards at the Post’s front door, surrounding President Obama, or to anywhere else other than in the vicinity of regular people’s children.

    Particularly amusing are the liberals who transform into green eyeshades misers with the public purse when it comes to cops in schools. The folks who can’t spend enough dough on fudge-smeared, patriarchy-challenging performance artists suddenly become thrifty Scotsmen when it comes to doling out a few shillings to put a cop on campus.

    They have been unable to articulate any coherent argument opposing putting cops in schools because there is no coherent argument against putting cops in schools. But more than anything, the mommies at the affluent Los Angeles-area school my kids attend have convinced me that the narrative has escaped the gun grabbers.

    Knowing our reputations as proud conservatives – we represent diversity for our liberal friends – a pal of my wife remarked, out of the blue, that “I think my husband and I need to buy guns.” Whoa.

    And as third graders sang holiday songs at their pageant while I surveyed the packed, vulnerable room, I blurted out to another mommy that I wished I could legally carry a weapon to protect those kids. And she told me that she wished that I could too. Whoa.

    Gun banners, you lost the President, the senators, the social media, and now you’ve lost liberal LA mommies. You’ve lost everything. Again.
     
  2. noknock1

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    I hope this guy is right, we will see how things unfold...
     
  3. shot410ga

    shot410ga Well-Known Member

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    Great! I think, I'll copy that essay and send it to all my liberal friends.
     
  4. cbxchris

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    He is exactly right.......just as I have been saying all along. The votes are not there and won't be.
     
  5. halfmile

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    I only have one liberal friend. He happens to be a shooter, too.

    Gun control does not fly in wisconsin. (Madison is another planet, not part of the state)

    This would be good to condense, paraphrase, and send to the letters department of every newspaper.

    HM
     
  6. crusha

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    The Heller decision was not on the books when the Clinton AW ban was passed...(by one vote...with a sunset clause inserted).


    We now have settled Supreme Court case law on the books that says qualified private citizens cannot be denied ownership of civilian small arms. So any new ban attempt will be a hard sell, because it begins life with a Constitutional poison pill already built-in. Congressmen don't want to risk their jobs on voting for a bill that later gets aggressively challenged in court (the NRA would do it) and overturned on Constitutional grounds.


    This is why the libs are hedging their bets with talk of magazine capacity restrictions and stuff like that. This time next year, AR-15s, AK clones, and all the rest will still be legal to buy. And the year after that...and the year after that. The Constitutional landscape has simply changed. Assault Weapon Bans, like Republican Presidents, were the product of a different time.


    The democrats will never see a gun ban bill reach the floor of the U.S. House of Representatives. I sorta hope it does, just so we can see some democrat reps. commit political suicide before the midterms.
     
  7. Pocatello

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    I hope this isn't the same pundit who was predicting a Romney landslide in October.
     
  8. RobertT

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    One small bite at a time, anything that holds more than 10 rounds at a time. Biden and crew need only look to California gun laws as a humble beginning for a blue print to new federal legislation. As a California resident nothing would make me happier than to see existing law challenged and found unconstitutional but I'm not overly optimistic. California, the home of Senator Feinswine and Concress Woman Pigosi. Coming to your state soon!

    Robert
     
  9. wayno

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    i really, really hope that the chicken littles around here will read this very well formulated position paper. see how effective an argument can be when it doesn't rely on name calling and doomsday predictions for its power?

    well done, my colleague in l.a.!

    wayne harrison
    greensboro, nc
     
  10. RobertT

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    Yes Wayne, the boy who cried wolf also failed to vote but rather stayed home because the weather was bad and pollsters had called for a Republican win. A Democrap was elected. It is indeed a finely written argument but complacency by pro gun interests will cost us our second amendment and much more.

    Robert
     
  11. JH

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    The capacity for self-delusion is immense.......are these guys disciples of Neville Chamberlain?
     
  12. wireguy

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    I don't think this guy is saying we can rest easy. I think he is pointing out a sea change that he has observed, and that we aren't in imminent danger. Long term will be a different story if we get sloppy. I'm darn sure not convinced enough to relax based on his observations.
     
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