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The Price of Lead

Discussion in 'Shooting Related Threads' started by skeeljc, Aug 25, 2013.

  1. skeeljc

    skeeljc Supporting Vendor Supporting Vendor

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    The Producer price of new lead appears to be leveling off at #1.30 per pound. Ten years ago it was $0.40 per pound. Twenty years ago it was $0.30 per pound. $1.00 of the increase occurred from 2004 to 2008. It actually went up to $2.10 per pound in January 2008.

    What happened between 2004 and 2008 to cause such a steep rise in the price?

    Jim Skeel<br>P/W Dealer/Distributor
     
  2. rpeerless

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    Rumor is that China was buying large amounts of lead for something to do with their mass production of submarines. Don't know if that's true but anything is possible.
    Also heard that China was hoarding metals, minerals, alloys etc. for future use and as investments.
     
  3. Johnny

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    note the last paragraph ; (because of a boom in the automobile and the telecom sectors of the developing countries);
     
  4. RLC323

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    I expect that the cost of producing lead, which would include labor, equipment, insurance, and compliance with a growing multitude of government regulations. Would add to the price increase.
     
  5. Stl Flyn

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    The dollar was starting it's decline, and the only thing that was keeping it alive, along with the economy, was housing. We all know what happened, when that hit the fan. Look at what gold was doing from 2001 until today. It is running in lockstep, in opposite of the dollar. Now with emerging markets taking a hit, the dollar is starting to get slightly stronger, and gold is losing it's luster. I am thinking lead will not be far behind. Plus we are not putting so much of it in the sand so to speak.

    Of course once the freak show is over on the ammunition hoarding, lead will also drop like a stone. That is unless there is a big uptick in x-rays being taken, and the need for more vests. LOL. Batteries for the electric automobile age may have an affect on lead also. Let alone just the fact that more automobiles on the road mean more batteries and lead usage.
     
  6. rick979

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    "Gold is losing its luster"? ... Oh really?? Got any for sale today? I am a cash buyer.
     
  7. Stl Flyn

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    I never said the luster loss was permanent. Ron Paul, is not that much out of his mind. A little quirky, but...just recently published an article of his portfolio.
     
  8. eightbore

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    Excuse my ignorance, but is lead in auto batteries able to be reused or recycled or is it lost forever.
     
  9. Rebel Sympathy

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    You poor "chicken-littles" need to quit panicking and read the REAL charts.

    www.kitcometals.com/charts/lead.html

    Mike
     
  10. grunt

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    Battery lead is recycled. generally to make more battery's. In fact everything in an auto battery is recycled.
     
  11. TheoShooter

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    Trapgun7,
    What in the world are you talking about?
     
  12. Johnny

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    eightbore , lead is recycled forever. Supposedly, 70-80% of the lead used in this country is from recycled lead.
     
  13. BT-100dc

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    You can blame much of the increase in the price of lead is due to the Federal Reserve Q.E. policies. When you devalue your currency it will affect the price of metals and other things. When I bought shot in the latter eighties it was $9.25 a bag; that was then. My educational guess, you will probably never see shot below $20.00 again in our lifetimes. Today, according to Kitco Metals, lead prices were at a fraction over $0.99 per pound. The Federal Reserve will likely continue the Q.E. for the upcoming year or so and shot will be likely to continue the high thirty range from here on. Although lead is a much recycled metal, the Federal Reserve will play a bigger part in our misery by dumping $80 billion a month in this worthless economy. BT100dc
     
  14. halfmile

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    trapgun7, where did you go to school?

    The kitco chart is the real thing.

    Bullets and shot are a miniscule part of the lead consumption, and as such do not affect the price.

    When cars start having lithium-ion batteries the price of lead will plummet.

    Actually, one major factor is the increased cost of handling due to more protection from the hazards. It's also the reason you see more imported shot, since other countries don't mind poisoning their children for a buck or two.
    US guys have to do a lot of safety stuff not used years ago.

    A major US company is responsible for thousands of children having brain damage in Peru, The Doe Run corp in Missouri.

    Mashy linky

    HM
     
  15. timberfaller

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    As long as the Feds are allowed to continue to "control" everything, PRICES will always be going UP.

    Between China taking all they can and the Feds wanting to BAN lead, Prices will continue to go up.

    And don't forget the propaganda that goes around about lead!! The next generation will be kept clueless.

    Spotted owl anyone!
     
  16. SeldomShoots

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    Sure, I'll have some I hear it tastes just like baby seals. :)
     
  17. TheoShooter

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    Spotted Owl tastes like chicken...........
     
  18. broadway john

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    Are you kidding? Chicken doesn't even taste like chicken.
     
  19. halfmile

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    Maybe lead went up cause the Chinese needed it for candy

    HM
     
  20. Johnny

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    "China helped send prices up more than fivefold in the past decade."

    That is without even mentioning India.