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the Holy Grail of 357's...

Discussion in 'Shooting Related Threads' started by Slugo, May 3, 2011.

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  1. Slugo

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    the Holy Grail of 357

    the incomparable N-frame S&W Model 27. No, it's not mine!! Found the image on Goggle. Beautiful revolver IMHO...

    27-2magnaleft.jpg
     
  2. Slugo

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    Oh jeez, I'll bet you regret that... :(
     
  3. Brian in Oregon

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    I'll have to post up my 1936 (second year of production) S&W Registered Magnum, the predecessor of the Model 27.
     
  4. bluedsteel

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    Amazingly, both of the Smith 27's I have owned have been disappointments. I bought both used, but in excellent condition. I simply could not get decent groups out of mine. Both of my 27's had 6" barrels, and they wouldn't group as well as my 4" barreled Smith 586 (L-frame).

    Ammo didn't matter...everything from 110 grain .357 JHP's to 158 grain .38 LRN's...all the same, usually the best I could wring from the bench were 3" groups at 25 yards...bore were scrupulously cleaned, I let another shooter friend try the guns, etc...nothing helped.

    I did find them to be beautifully made...loved the checkered top strap..but performance was lousy...and inexplicable.

    bluedsteel
     
  5. GW22

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    Bluedsteel:

    It's not inexplicable. S&W went thru countless management and ownership changes through the years. Over the past several decades they shipped some of the finest revolvers ever made and they also shipped some total garbage -- some of it so horrific that I wouldn't have believed it if I hadn't seen it with my own two eyes. I once witnessed the cylinder on a brand new Chief's Special bulge on the very first box of cartridges. Other S&W cylinders were misaligned with the barrels and rubbed the frame straight from the factory. Yet my own Chief's Special is amazingy accurate for what it is, and has been a total dream.

    They made some jewels and they made some crap, it's that simple.

    -Gary
     
  6. bluedsteel

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    Gary;

    I understand what you are saying...I guess I expected more from one (two) of their "premium" models. I had the barrel/cyclinder alignment checked on both guns, and it was within spec. I concluded that there was perhaps some kind of harmonic problem that resulted when the barrels were "fitted" to the frame...but I never really figured out the problem.

    bluedsteel
     
  7. Brian in Oregon

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    I have a later Model 27 with an 8-3/4" barrel. Very accurate. Especially with wadcutters. Made a great small game gun, because the wadcutter puts a ton of whack on critters, but meat destruction is almost nil. You can eat right up to the bullet hole. Haven't shot it much since I started turning farsighted. The sights are blurry.
     
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    I guess that I must have gotten one of the jewels!

    Mine is a Mod 28 marked NYSP ... and from a rest, it will put them all into a 2 inch group at 25 yards.
     
  9. Brian in Oregon

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    Wish I still had my 6" M28. Traded it off. That was back when they were a dime a dozen. Especially the 4" models. Now they're getting scarce.
     
  10. maierar

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    My favorite 357 and runner-up:

    maierar_2011_05013.jpg

    maierar_2011_05014.jpg


    OOps. Got the order wrong. First pic is runner-up, second is my favorite (but you probably figured that out already).
     
  11. ljutic73

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    Always figured the Python was No.1
     
  12. Sky Buster

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    The omly thing the Phython had going for it was the blueing.
    The double-action stacks badly. The single-action pull is only
    average. It's most over-priced revolver on the market. You'll
    find that 99% of the police officers competing at the Police
    Nationals (about 500 shooters) will be shooting a S&W K or
    L frame revolver. If there was something better out there,
    they'd be using it.
     
  13. oskerspap12

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    Back when I was a kid I used to hunt squirrels with a M27......thats all I had..... ya learned to hit 'em the head pretty quick if ya wanted to eat.It was alot of fun though.

    D.P.Reynolds
     
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    Back in the 1950s my Dad and I were paper punchers. He went through a bunch of wheel guns, both Smith and Colt, and I never shot any of them that would loose a match. I could miss, but they didn't. Since then, things have changed. As someone mentioned, now some shoot well and some don't. As a result, the newest revolver I have is Dad's Smith pre-model 19. About all the others are pre-WWII.
     
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