HELLO:
this will be my last thread for awhile. my vacation is over and i return to work monday. i use to load federal papers, and i put 100 nails through a board and placed 100 empty federal paper hulls on top of the nails, and would place them in an oven and bake them to bring the wax out of them and get them backinto my chamber after reloading them. if you didn't do this, they would expand and you could not chamber the shell. a friend of mine, was over one day, saw what i was doing. i explained why i was doing this etc. also told him in summer when it is hot outside you will smoke more targets then when you shoot in winter. told him during the winter events, when you get out to the club, place your shell box on top of the radiator inside the club house to warm them up a bit, don't leave your shells in the car, they will lose velocity in extremly cold weather. i pick my friend up to go to a ata shoot the next saturday. he said come into his house. he said i have my shells in the oven. i said i didn't know you switched to loading federal papers? he said i dont load federal papers. i said whats in the oven? he placed a new case of winchester AA"S on a baking sheet, these shells were loaded, new out of the box. i quickly turned off the oven, I said what the hell is wrong with you? he said you told me the hotter the shell the better you will hit them. I said you have to be the dumbest S.O.B. in the entire ATA. if these shells go off in this oven, you will be like dorothy and her dog in the wizzard of oz,he then got mad at me, and we drove to the shoot. i asked him why he wasn't talking, he said because i said he was dumb. calmly, i explained what he did wrong. i have been friends with this man for a long time.
steve balistreri
Well this might come close.
A few years back I got my friend into shooting. He was from Canada and retired out of the Candian Airforce and lived down in the states and worked for a medical device company. He was a metalurgist and a chemist.
I started him into reloading to save money. I told him at that time alot of fellows like Red dot powder, so I set his loader up to throw red dot powder with 1-1/8 oz loads. Later he wanted a heavier load so I gave him my reloading book and he started to load with green dot for some of his loads. Well ok.
It just happened one evening we went to the club in a different area to do some shooting. As Luck would have it when we were about to get on the line he stated that he hoped his loads were worth a sh&$. I said what do you mean I thought you were happy with the red dot loads for 16 yrds. He said I am but I only had a half a bottle of powder left so I filled it back up with green dot and shook it good to mix it up well. Well I grabbed his gun and act real calm and said let me see your gun a minute,( just to get it out of his hands). After I got it in my hands I said what in the hell are you doing mixing two powders together. I said you are a chemist and you don't know what can happen when you mix two different powders together. Luckly the other fellows did not hear me or they would have gotten in on the conversation and made things worse. I gave him some of my shells to shoot the night but on the way home I sure read him the riot act and couldn't believe he would do a stupid thing like that. We remaind friends and laugh about it now. He said what really struck him funny is when I told him the only kind of guys I know that is that damn stupid is college educated.
I knew a shooter who ordered a new gun from a friendly sporting goods dealer. He picked it up and shot it A LOT. It was a very used gun. He took it back to his "friend" and said he changed his mind. Would not pay what was due. He lost a friend over that.
That is the dumbest thing I ever saw a trapshooter due. Jake
It was a hunter who had an 1100 remington that would not eject empty hulls. I saw he was down to a single shot and offered to help him out. As I went to unscrew the magazine cap he got real panicky and said" Don't take that off if you do it will let all the gas out". He was serious and this really happened. Jeff
I shot with a guy that used one of those cleaning rods that unscrewed in the middle to clean his gun everytime he was done for the day. One day we were the first squad out, he was on post 2, and I was on post 1. After I shot he called for his target, and when the gun went off out flew the fuzzy end of the cleaning rod. No harm to the gun, it flew out like an arrow. Harry
maybe not the dumbest, but it sure got my attention.......I was scoring for a fundraiser shoot, so we had lots of shooters with a variety of knowledge and ability. We were using one scorer and one safety observer. This one group that apparently had a few shooters that were fairly knowlegeable seemed to provide an opportunity for my line observer to go take a quick break, so he took off. In betweem each round we had kids that would rake the empties out in front of the 16 yd line, then pick them up later. There was one shooter that seemed to realize that the empties were all piled up in front of him about half way thru the round, so to simplify the clean up, he would turn his break open gun so that the empties would eject forward..........Only problem was that up until the time that he ejected the empties, the gun was pointed at me. I had to put a stop to that right quick.
d
THE DUMBEST THING I EVER SAW was seeing all these a@#holes telling everyone how to spell. You guys are like the guy at the club that everyone avoids,because all he ever does is complain and say what everyone does wrong....Give it a break....Ziggy
The dumest thing I have ever seen was a guy shooting a pump gun at Tucson Trap club 2 years ago. He had a stuck shell and was on post 5 , he then turned with barrel in front of him trying to eject the shell, continuing to walk to the scorers table , when he got there he pointed the gun at Doc Sotelo and myself, still trying to eject the shell. with people hollering at him to point the gun up about this time he had the barrel pointed up above our heads , OUT COMES A LOADED SHELL. I prayed real hard that night.
By the way I haven't seen him at the club since.
hello again:
after reading all these stories, it is amazing that more people have not been hurt shooting in the past. anti gunners would love to have a major accident happen to us so they could preach on their soap box for all to listen.
steve balistreri
the dumbest thing i ever heard of; actually saw it happen, cant say what it was tho, because if i did they might throw me out of the ATA because it was me that did it dumb n dumber milt luther
I will go with the guy with a bad case of the shakes that decided to go to a relaease trigger, two into the ground for every shot at a bird, I was starting to get the shakes by the end of that round!
Ljutic231,
Had the same thing happen to me. I was on 4, the guy on 5 had a stuck shell in his pump gun. As I turned to see what was taking him so long to shoot, I found myself looking down the barrel of his partly loaded gun. Needless to say, I yelled, and everyone there yelled. He left a little while later, never to be seen again. That was last year. Steve
We have a rifle range at the club and as I was asking the rifle shooters to finish up as the trapshoot was about to begin. There were people downrange so no one was sitting at their guns ready to fire but a shooter was standing next to the shooting bench putting rounds into the built in clip. Now remember that there are still people downrange. I was standing there talking to a friend of mine when the shooter was putting rounds into the in-gun clip, I kept talking but watched this guy like a hawk. When he closed the bolt (putting a round into the chamber I told him "Sir, you MUST open the bolt and remove the round from the chamber as there are still people downrange!" He looked at me as if I had two heads but did as he was asked. All gun ranges are about one trigger pull from closing!
I was the manager of the local gun range for a few years and there is no end to the dumb things that can happen. The gun club had a seperate rifle and pistol ranges, 4 skeet and 2 trap fields. We were open to the public which sometimes gave some of our older local shooters heart attacks. We had a guest walk down range to the 25yard line while the line was hot, "cause the other guy could hit the target" and he didnt mind. We had a vistor on the rifle range send his wife down range so she could point out his hits on the target at 100 yds because he didnt have a spotting scope. One of our shooters set the rifle range on fire using tracer ammo in the dry season. I have a piece of a S/W model 29 cylender from a guy who like to drink and reload. We had several occasions where the trap people would walk out to load the trap right as the skeet shooters were shooting post 7 on the adjoining field, all of the high houses had been shot multiple times. we had several bullet holes over the years appear in the roofs of the pistol and rifle ranges. I was asked to stack and staple several bullseye targets onto the cardboard backer and the shooter would just peel them off as he used them up. WE had people who came to use the range because" they would be more likely to have to shoot somebody out doors than in." There are more than I can remember or care to. Mike
I have two dumb ones. Years ago when I just started gunsmithing, I worked in a large shop where besides repair work, we did a lot of custome stock work. One day Ted, (the owner), and I were putting the finish sanding on a bunch of custom stocks before puting oil on them. As we would finish one we would put it into a gun rack and work on the next one. A guy went around the counter and came into the back room with a German Luger. Ted asked him what he wanted and the guy said the gun wouldn't fire. He then racked a shell in and it went off putting a hold through 6 custom stocks. Amazingly, he lived through our triates. The other was my brother-in law was loading shotgun shells on a Mec 600 to go Dove hunting with me that evening. I picked up a shell to put it in a box for him and noticed it didn't feel right. Cut it open and somehow he got the bar in the Mec turned around which it is not suppose to be able to do, and put a heck of a load of powder behind a light load of shot. He was shooting and old Remington mdl 11 and I think it could have been very serious.
Dan
I did not see this happen, but I did see the results.As the story goes a shooter at our local club was done shooting for the day, went to put in snap cap in his gun to release the spring on the firing pin. He did not notice the live shell he put into gun instead. pulled the trigger and shot a nice hole in the side of the Coke machine.(glad nobody was hurt) The metal on those are very durable as the shot never when through the side, we still get our soda out of that machine today.Break-em all. Jeff
i saw a guy come to our club with an 870 trap gun. he pulled gun up proceeded to close action. The barrel, forearm and bolt assembly full on the ground in front of him. he forgot to put nut on front of gun.
At a public range in Maryland (where they ask we more experienced shooters to act as range safety officers during the holiday season...nothing like a know nothin' with a x-mas gun) come into the club house and blow a six inch hole in the tile floor with his "unloaded" rental gun.
The number of times we have stopped people from turning around with their loaded gun to talk/ask question to somebody behind them (thus sweeping the adjacent area and people) is too many to count. We have had to throw people out of the range who insist on their right to act unsafely (generally Grandpa who does know his anus from a hole in the ground with his grandson...between x-mas and New Years).
Public range or not, my view is everybody should go through safety training and be issued an ID or certificate. No evidence of safety class, no shooting. Even my IWLA in Maryland makes its members, many like myself who have been shooting for a very long time, do this...its good for insurance rates and its good for the club...one accidental shooting and that's it in today's environment.
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