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The best rebuttals for a speedy healthcare bill

Discussion in 'Politics, Elections & Legislation' started by bigdogtx, Aug 5, 2009.

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  1. bigdogtx

    bigdogtx Well-Known Member

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    Six months to pick a dog and a week to vote on healthcare,,,,shows hussein's colors as well as his democrat cohorts,,,,he also isn't afraid to call a LIAR a LIAR,,,,hope his taxes are paid....

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  2. timberfaller

    timberfaller Well-Known Member

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    Not only can't they read, but can't hear either!!
     
  3. Ahab

    Ahab Well-Known Member

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    Ahab,

    That is great.

    Ron Burdick
     
  5. halfmile

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    “This government takeover has only one guaranteed result: to tell Americans what doctors you can see, what treatments you deserve and what medicines you can have.”


    Thus saith the esteemed Senator from Texas.

    I wonder who is going to report him.

    And WOW! Coburn from Oklahoma has introduced an amendment to force members of Congress to go into the public system that they pass.

    Watch the fur fly now.

    HM
     
  6. John Browning

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    Looks like we have a choice between Obama care and the Repulicans we don't care. John
     
  7. RobertT

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    I have three son's, one who leaves me lacking for respect in many ways. He has fathered two children, both born on our current welfare system. Between his significant other, himself and the children, they have managed to get by quiet nicely with section 8, food stamps and emergency healhcare. I find it appalling that all of America should have to join his rank and file government subsidised community, thus becoming Obamainites.

    Let me clarify, I have two older son's who proudly serve our country in the military with asperations of a 20yr commitment. According to the Democrats, my two oldest son's are the idiots.

    Hmmmmmmmmm. Robert
     
  8. Trappy12

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    Anyone for a "speedy" healthcare reform is out of their mind. I have no doubt in my mind that there needs to be health care reform, but BY NO MEANS should it be rushed! Something as serious as reformed healthcare should take at the very least 1-2 years to ratify and be able to go into operation without too many doubts.
    -Trappy
     
  9. stokinpls

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    Here's the lib socialist response to your wanting to attend a "town hall" meeting to express your concerns. This was Carnahan's "meeting" in St. Louis. If any of these b*stards are left in office after 2014, we are dead.
     
  10. Setterman

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    Consider the efficiency of the Post Office, HUD, Fanny & Freddie, SBA, VA, Medicare and Medicade, or any other Federally operated entity. And you want them to devise a speedy Health Care plan?
     
  11. Barrelbulge(Fl)

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    Robert T, give your 2 elder sons my thanks.I have a daughter in the Air Force also. She has been to Iraq twice. Bulge.
     
  12. Ahab

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    Setterman......yes the efficiency of the Post Office, SBA and Fanny & Freddy ...but with the congeniality of the IRS!
     
  13. Jerbear

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  14. wolfram

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    There is a very positive silver lining to this latest dark cloud of government oppresion .... mainstream tax paying america is waking up and starting to send the message that they are the boss and the people in Washington are the employees. The arrogant response from our elected ones is more strong arm tactics which is backfiring everywhere. Keep it up Harry and Nancy .......

    I see this as a much better battleground than a strictly 2nd amendment fight.
     
  15. crusha

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    The most powerful antidote to a speedy health care bill is the desire of Democrats to get re-elected.


    You see, there's two Dirty Washington Secrets everybody on the Hill knows:

    1. Dirty Secret #1: the party in charge of the White House _always_ has a net loss of seats in the mid-term Congressional elections. It's usually moderates from "swing" districts who go down (never the people from safe districts like Nancy Pelosi). None of the Blue Dogs wants to be that chump (thus their hesitation on Health Care reform...nobody wants to cast the vote that cuts their own throat).

    2. When any Big Topic is up for debate on Capitol Hill, lobbying money from the associated industry groups pours into Congressmens' re-election campaigns like piss out of a boot. Think about it: how come every session of Congress, there always has to be a big, long, drawn-out FARM BILL...a big, long, drawn-out ENERGY BILL...DEFENSE BILL...TELECOM BILL...TRADE BILL...and so on down the line? Does the Public Interest _really_ require Congress to produce a bill on every effing subject, every session of Congress? Of course not.

    BUT - Agriculture, Energy, Defense, Telecomm, Overseas Trade...these are the BIG industries with the BIG money. And, they'll spend BIG MONEY to defend their interests any time a bill affecting them is up for debate on Capitol Hill. So, Congress always makes sure to put such a bill up for consideration. It's a large, well-choreographed, respectable-sounding protection racket. Congress puts your particular industry up on the chopping block, then sits back and waits for all the players in that industry (on all sides of it) to come trotting obediently up to the Hill with suitcases full of cash in-hand, to prevent their Ox from getting gored. This is how Congressmen fill their coffers for re-election. If they didn't go through this rigmarole, the money wouldn't come. They'd be sitting there with their thumb up their ass begging for $25 contributions, hoping some well-financed primary challenger doesn't rise up and blow them out of the water. And remember, nobody wants to be a "statistic" on Election Night.

    BIG BILLS is how Congress puts out the bait to draw the BIG MONEY up to The Hill.



    The reason Democrats are stalling this HealthCare legislation is simple: they want to draw it out at least 6 months, to give time for PLENTY of health care lobbying dollars (hospitals, insurers, unions) to make its way into their campaign accounts...in other words, time in which to stock up the war-chest for re-election time. They think they're going to need it (especially the Blue Dogs, and especially if the jobs situation doesn't improve by then - which it won't).


    If they passed HCR in 3~4 weeks like Obama wanted, the lobbyists wouldn't even have time to get their check books out before it would be all over - thereby leaving Congressmen with less ammo for re-election.


    No, Congress is going to debate this for a good, looonnnggg time. If they are going to have to take the heat from the public for a bad vote on a bad bill, they're going to avail themselves of the opportunity to harvest a good long haul of campaign ca$h before they cast that vote...that way, they'll have something to insulate themselves with when the shit hits the fan on election day.



    The longer they debate - the more money pours in. And money is the stuff that successful re-election campaigns are made of. Shorter debate = less money. Longer debate = more money.
     
  16. halfmile

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    Buzz, I agree with you. Obama had said he was going to do away with the Lobby powers, LOL.

    But, here's an interesting point:

    What Congressman up for election is going to piss off the people who have his future in their hands?

    The more opposition to this bill, the more fear these jerks should have for their future.

    This is why the big Dems are trying to call this a staged, orchestrated thing, to marginalize the fact that peole have finally had enough.

    Everyone, keep the pressure on.

    Write letters. Real letters, with stamps. This will have much more weight than any email,(ignored) fax,(disregarded) or phone call you can make.

    The fact that you sit down and write a letter will show that you are serious and mean business.

    I'm promising vigorous campaigning against them if they favor this monstrosity.

    HM
     
  17. stokinpls

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    If you live in Michigan you're wasting your time. Watch this crook at the 2:12 mark and see waht his opinion is.
     
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    You hit the nail on the head, Thanks, it's been going on forever. Does anyone think it's going to end now. Of course they're painting everyone who objects as old idiots unforgiving Repubs or maybe even terrorists.

    Bill
     
  19. bigdogtx

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    stokinpls,,,,yep, "troublemakers", if you disagree,,,,the campaign starts in September,,,,if CONSERVATIVES will step up, their efforts will be rewarded and maybe we can get some of the garbage out,,,,I also mean RINOS as well as libs!!!!
     
  20. birdogs

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    During the reign of Lyndon Johnson, it was discovered that America had poor people who copuld not afford to buy food. (Beer and cigarettes were not a problem but food was.) This poverty affected about 10 million people, about the same number as those whio can't afford health insurance. The author of "The Great Society" did NOT take over food production or food distribution or mandatory rationing or consumption. He started the food stamp program.

    Why does Obama need to take over the entire healtcare system to provide 10 millio people with health insurance? Sounds like lawyer (liar) speak to me!
     
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