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The All World Championship ?

Discussion in 'Uncategorized Threads' started by bertonernie, Dec 26, 2007.

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  1. bertonernie

    bertonernie TS Member

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    What is this ?
     
  2. DoubleAuto

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    If you are talking about the World All-Around Championship it is a shooting competition that includes most of the shotgun shooting disciplines shot in one event. It costs around $5000 to enter. To date the "Big Boys" of trapshooting have been AFRAID to compete in the first championship held in 2007. But then it requires shooters to shoot at targets that are not always in a pre-determined path, or at a set speed, or at a set height,etc. It also requires shotgun movement which trapshooters don't understand. It may also require the use of loads over 1200 fps and trapshooter couldn't handle the recoil in their 9 pound plus guns with recoil reducers.
     
  3. KEYBEAR

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    Sounds alot like a red neck friday night .
     
  4. Joe Potosky

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    1st World All Around Championship

    MAY 10 - 13, 2007


    http://shooterspagetx.com/articles/070516.htm
     
  5. bertonernie

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    DoubleAuto, thanks.

    I would like to watch this, this must be something to see. Where is it ?
     
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    Its held in Texas. George Digweed from Great Britain won the first Championship in 2007.
     
  7. bertonernie

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    Does the Grand shoot for this much money ? Man, this is alot of money.
     
  8. Dickgshot

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    The "big boys" of trapshooting (and skeet) don't enter because the scoring is so skewed in favor of sporting clays, that no one else has much of a chance.
    No small surprise, since sporting clays shooters are the ones who originated the event. Last years winner was George Digweed of Great Britain, the best sporting clays shooter in the world.
     
  9. bertonernie

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    dickgtax,

    Did anybody from TS.com compete in the All World ?
     
  10. Texas Ton

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    dickgtax, explain or define "so skewed"!!!
     
  11. jim brown

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    Let me explain it for dickgtax. They shoot a total of 150 trap targets and they shoot 300 sporting clay targets. Also they don't hit very many trap targets. The winner of the whole thing only hit 43X50 27 yard trap targets, that is a roaring 86%.

    It costs $5000 to shoot and the winner got $41,070 back if there were 30 shooters, which there were not. They would have paid out $120,000 of 150,000 in entry fees they took in. Not a really great pay day considering the cost to enter.

    jim brown
     
  12. Dickgshot

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    The event was scored on total target count. Target count has a different weight in different sports. In trap, 10 targets out of 100 is the difference between AA -1st and a class D shooter having a bad day. In sporting clays 10 targets out of 100 is often the difference between champion and runner up.

    A couple years ago, Tony Rivera won the 300 target Sporting Clays Nationals.
    Kaye Ohye entered. He finished 78 targets out of first place. If that had been a trap tournament, Kaye would have probably beat Tony by 5 or 6 targets at the most. It's like comparing apples and oranges.

    That's why I said the event is skewed in favor of sporting clays.
     
  13. Texas Ton

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    JB, well, there weren't 300 sporting targets. There were 100, with 100 5 stand and 75 FITASC.

    I'd say that ATA trap and Bunker trap are as kin as Sporting is to FITASC, or 5 stand.

    So the way I read it, there's a whole 25 targets "skewed" there.

    Same with skeet
     
  14. Southern Gent

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    It also included 25 flyers, which I'm surprised they were able to pull off without the tree huggers interfering.

    Jon Krueger, who was second, is a tolerably fair trap shooter.
     
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    Mike, You know I agree with you about the superiority of sporting shooters. But, only to a point.

    Many trapshooters are flat out great shots with a shotgun and would be so in any event they understood and practiced. Many of them shoot flyers at a world class level. Many of them hunt extensively in the fall. If those guys spent their time learning the presentations and techniques for shooting sporting they could compete. As well, Digweed or any of the top sporting shooters would make great trapshooters if that is where they spent all their time.

    Ya pays yer money and ya burns yer powder where ya want. Some folks like 16 yard puff balls, some like to break a target at 80 yards after 5 guys in front of him have missed in an Annie. And, some like a weird little target at 45 yards that is curling down and away.

    Its all good, Jake
     
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    Mike, One other thing. I heard a story that Kaye Ohye was asked to shoot a round of bunker at some club after an ATA event. Story was he shot it with a single barrel. Broke like 23. Jake
     
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    Are all you sporters such whinners and cry babies. All you do is complain because no one came to your 30 man shoot and paid $5,000 to do it. Get real no one gives a crap but you. You went through all this garbage just 2 months ago. You come on a trapshooting site and just try to stir up some crap, unless you personally want to challenge somebody at their sport please shut the hell up.

    Don
     
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    This event did not prove the best shot in the World, It proved the best shot out of less than 30 shooters that competed. Over 4,000 shooters at the GAH.
     
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    I would predict that our very best football players would not be exceptionally good tennis players even though both games are played with balls.

    Pat Ireland
     
  20. Joe Potosky

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    World ALL AROUND Championship

    150 skeet targets

    100 International skeet targets

    150 trap targets

    100 Olympic Bunker targets

    50 live bird

    100 sporting clays

    100 5-stand

    75 FITASC

    50 Hellice
     
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