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The 7 states that will decide

Discussion in 'Politics, Elections & Legislation' started by shootinghero, Jun 11, 2012.

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  1. shootinghero

    shootinghero TS Member

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    New Hampshire, Virginia, Florida, Ohio, Iowa, Colorado and Nevada

    Oregon and Brian are already in the Obama category. If you live in one of the seven, please help save our nation.
     
  2. wolfram

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    We will try here in NV but the vote usually goes with urban disaster that is Las Vegas. Lots of Obama supporters down there even if many of them are out of work.
     
  3. Brian in Oregon

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    You do realise it is a lie to state that I am voting for Obama? Please retract your lie.

    As for Oregon, the polls now show Obama within the margin of error.

    But hey, keep listening to 221 declaring Oregon is not a swing state. Go ahead and repeat that Oregon will remain blue so your Romney voters will assume it's pointless to get out and vote.

    Try to keep up on current events.
     
  4. chuckie68

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    By all past threads and information coming from Brian, he sure aint voting for Romney. The independant doesn't have a chance of winning this election. So I logically surmise that Brians' vote will go for the JA we already have. It doesn't take a genious to figure that out. Oh,.....I forgot that's why they call it the left coast.

    Chuck
     
  5. dshot

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    Today will show you how Virginia are thinking and will be voting.
     
  6. wolfram

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    I would agree that voting for a third party does not help Mitt win an election. But it also does not help Obama win - it is not a vote for either one. Thinking otherwise is much the same as counting chikens when all you see is eggs - presumtious at best.
     
  7. The Stive

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    I know that I will do my part in Ohio. We need to vote Obamy out. John
     
  8. shootinghero

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    No Wolfram, you are wrong. Obama is the incumbent and no matter how bad he has been that gives him an advantage. He gets free press that Romney has to counter with paid advertising. He gets to use executive orders to hand out money and favors to constituencies that may not yet be in his corner. He will start out in the election with the support of the blacks, the Hispanics, the liberals, the young electronic game players and so on while the conservatives would rather go down in flames wasting votes for candidates that cannot win the election. Conservative votes that do not go to Romney are lost votes that he should get and needs to overcome Obama's advantage.They are, in effect, votes for Obama. Finally, the president is elected by electoral votes. States like New York, California, and Illinois are big electoral vote states that are locks for Obama. Every vote in a swing state that is not for Romney is a vote for Obama because Romney's only chance is to carry the swing states.

    Brian and a few others apparently think that the way to show the Republicans the error of their ways is to cast third party ballots that make a statement, even though the effect of that is to re-elect Obama. That means Brian and his mindless ilk are voting for Obama, whether they pull the lever for him or not.

    We have an election to win. Forget about Brian, get people out to vote who understand if we lose this election, America is lost.
     
  9. gun fitter

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    The protest vote does nothing but make matters worse. Look at Ross Perot he handed the presidency to Bill Clinton. Most of Perot's supporters would have preferred that Clinton were not elected however by their direct action they assured that a Democrat won.

    History repeats it's self and protest votes do nothing but make the disgruntled feel better. In actuality they usually hurt the country.

    Joe
     
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    It'll be a walk in the park, for Romney.
     
  11. wolfram

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    ShootingHero,

    I will agree with you that our countrie's government deffinately needs to change directions and that four more years of Obama would be disaterous.

    But on the subject of the third party, it is important to look at that not just from the perspective of an RNC voter. Don't you suppose that there is going to be an equivelent and significant number of voters on the Dem side that really don't like the job Obama is doing but in no way can they bring themselves to vote for Romney? If everyone wasn't so convinced that a third party vote is simplky a protest vote then we might actually see some beneficial change in our political system. It may sound far fetched but I think you would agree that the limited choice two party system is not working for us very well.

    This was kind of the direction the Tea Party headed out in before it got hijacked by the less than credible ultra right bible thumpers.
     
  12. GW22

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    Brian

    Again, Kalifornia - a full blown Euro-Socialist state if there ever was one - voted Republican more recently than Oregon.

    I don't know what's funnier - your cluelessness regarding how absolutely in-the-tank for the Democrats your state is, or the fact that you argue Oregon's importance in defeating Obama while also claiming that you YOURSELF aren't voting for Romney (just like pretty much everybody in Oregon). LOL.

    My God, man - does the hilarious irony and asinine incongruity of your conflicting comments never cross your mind?

    -Gary
     
  13. Brian in Oregon

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    Gary, I know it's difficult for your to understand this concept, but please try to concentrate real hard...

    Obama's lead in Oregon has slipped to the point where it is within the margin of error in the polls.

    That means the race in Oregon is up for grabs, and will be decided by how much effort the candidates put into it. If Romney writes off Oregon like you have, he will probably lose here. If he puts some effort into Oregon, he might be able to squeak by, though that depends on the thin margin of angry gun owners who have been voting out anti-gun Republicans here for two decades. But nevertheless the race is close enough he could pull it off.

    If you really understood politics instead of bashing others like a clueless blowhard who belittles and namecalls instead of backing up your conjecture, you'd know what that means.
     
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    No one should underestimate NORTH CAROLINA!!!
     
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    North Carolina? Careful, you'll get GW22 (Gut Wind?) on you.
     
  16. Borg

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    Third party vote? Lets see, the incumbant is the other party this time, but remember George H W Bush vs Dick head? That mini man Perot tipped the apple cart in favor of the baby raper. Romney would not be my first choice, but being in Montana we have NO say in who will be the nominee. The shitty states get to pick. Having said that, Romney or total distruction? Um, ya I will vote for Romney. I would like to vote FOR someone as opposed to against someone, but it has been a while since I have cast a vote for the president. I seem to be voting against someone. Perhaps some day a true conservative will get past the liberal media guantlet.
    Peter
     
  17. shootinghero

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    "Don't you suppose that there is going to be an equivelent and significant number of voters on the Dem side that really don't like the job Obama is doing but in no way can they bring themselves to vote for Romney?"


    Wolfram, respectfully, the Dems who are dissatisfied with Obama are people who think he is not being enough of a liberal activist. I agree they won't vote for Romney, but their dissatisfaction is not going to keep them from voting for Obama. They will vote against Romney, understanding as we on the other side do, that it is an either/or choice. I laugh when I see news articles that say Obama is losing support among the blacks who don't think he has done enough. On election day he will get 95% of the black vote, no matter how dissatisfied they are.

    I thought the Tea Party did a great job of raising issues. Unfortunately, they have done a lousey job of electing candidates. We can't afford that this election.
     
  18. GW22

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    Brian:

    I've got $300 in my pocket that says you're full of crap and Oregen votes for the Democrat this year, just like they mindlessly do in every presidential election regardless of who's running. We'll agree on a TS.com regular whom we both trust and we'll each send him/her our money right now. Then, after November's election, the winner gets $500 and $100 goes to David for running this site. To make it even more interesting, we'll agree that the TS.com posters can vote on whether the loser gets to continue posting on this forum or must take a permanent hike.

    Deal?

    -Gary
     
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    I'll hold the money.

    Kit
     
  20. GW22

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    Deal.

    -Gary
     
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