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Thank you to the out of state workers!

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  1. Libra1310

    Libra1310 TS Member

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    I live on Long Island in an area hit very hard by super storm sandy. I just want to thank all the out of state workers who are here, away from their families, helping us get back to normalcy. If any are trap shooters I wouldn't mind shooting a round or 2 on my dime!

    Chris.
     
  2. John Galt

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    That's very nice of you Chris!!!!!
     
  3. CalvinMD

    CalvinMD Well-Known Member

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    Hope you all get back on your feet asap Chris,..just curious? What is the reaction of those affected to the news of non-union utility crews being turned away for being from non-union shops? If I were among those in your situation, I'd have been screaming bloody murder..just isn't right having people suffer so badly and officials turning offered help away...its truly a sin...Good Luck to you all getting your lives back...CalMD
     
  4. hmb

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    Cal,

    I believe they were turned away in NJ first and came to work on Long Island. The work crew was from Alabama. HMB
     
  5. SirMissalott

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    Chris,
    Hope it's getting back to somewhat normal, living in Fla. and living through extended power outages it's amazing the gratitude you can find when a total stranger gives up of his own to help you out.
     
  6. Ifitfliesitdies

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    I Agree with Chris. Thank to the crews from all over the country and Canada that came here to L.I. to help!

    Cal,HMB -
    Here's an article published in the New York Newsday November 9 by Mark Harrington.

    The following is the link but you have to be an on-line subscriber so I copied the actual article below the link. http://www.newsday.com/long-island/fla-utility-union-delayed-crews-for-lipa-1.4205898?qr=1

    Fla. utility: Union delayed crews for LIPA

    Originally published: November 9, 2012 2:08 PM Updated: November 9, 2012 10:39 PM By MARK HARRINGTON mark.harrington@newsday.com

    As superstorm Sandy pounded Long Island last week, representatives for the Long Island Power Authority began making mayday calls to repair crews across the nation. But their requests for help came with a footnote, according to one utility group that received a call: Contact the local electrical union first so that imported workers could be signed up as members before they arrived.

    With repair work still going on 12 days later and more than 160,000 Long Islanders still without power after Sandy and this week's nor'easter, the contention that LIPA's union leaders required so-called "assent letters" sent to would-be workers early in the restoration has become an issue as ratepayers look for answers about why it's taking so long to get power back.

    Barry Moline, executive director of the Florida Municipal Electric Association, said Long Island could have received 125 additional workers from utilities across Florida as soon as two days after the storm if a dispute about the letters had been resolved sooner. He said most of the crews from Florida who were available were nonunion and refused to join Local 1049 of the International Brotherhood of Electrical Workers, even if only temporarily. IBEW Local 1049 represents some 2,000 National Grid workers contracted by LIPA.

    "To have this contract thrust upon these organization on short notice is an affront..." Moline said. "We said [to IBEW local.] "Why are you dong this? They said, "We want them [imported workers] to get a taste of the union so that when they go back home, they want the union.'"

    Crews that could have come to Long Island went instead to Pennsylvanis, Moline said. "We could have been there on Wednesday, and instead we arrived on Sunday," he said, after the union rescinded the requirement.

    LIPA referred questions about the issue to National Grid, the company contracted by LIPA to oversee operations. "Assent letters were not required and that is not National Grid policy", spokeswoman Wendy Ladd said.

    The dispute was settled the weekend after the storm hit following intervention by American Public Power Association, which represents 2,000 municipal utilities across the nation. Nicholas Braden, a spokesman for the association, said although it took several days to resolve, he did not believe it delayed workers from arriving to the region. Braden said the issue in dispute was that nonunion crews would have had to pay union dues and stuff...It kind of stopped things in their tracks until they could work out the issue." Braden said it was resolved by elimination of the requirement that they join the union. Crews from several Southern states had issues with the contract, Braden said, including workers from Georgia, Florida and Alabama.

    Don Daley, Business manager for Local 1049 of the IBEW, said no worker was turned away for refusing to sign the assent letters. "We're all about getting the lights on...1049 has not obstructed anyone from coming." He said that the money paid into pension and health funds would benefit the workers, not the fund. "That's their money," Daley said. "I think they just make a request to take their money out, and whatever tax laws there are, they get their money." The assent letter--if signed--made out-of-state workers temporary members of the union, who receive Long Island's prevailing wage, regardless of what they received at their home utility. Included in the contract that temporary union members sign, according to a copy of it provided to Newsday: contribution of 22.5 percent of each employee's gross salary to the IBEW annuity fund: payments of $9.75 and hour to the union's health and welfare fund; 3 percent of each worker's gross salary to the union's National Electrical Benefit fund"; 3 percent of each worker's gross salary to the union's National Electrical Benefit Fund; and lesser amounts to other funds.
     
  7. Shooting Jack

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    Chris, I will pass on the thank you to my Nephew who left from up there Friday night. He was a power man and his whole team, ten trucks were sent home Friday evening. He is probably still sleeping as they worked 18 hour days with two hour naps in between shifts to try to stay safe. Jackie B.
     
  8. HSLDS

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    I spent the weekend helping a friend with a house in the Bay Head - Mantoloking area of NJ.

    There are people all over - many of them volunteers - helping to clear the mess - trash, trees, boats, furniture, sand, etc.

    The devastation is unreal. Dumpsters are everywhere. Dump trucks are using the site of an old K Mart to drop their loads so they can quickly return. The pile is 30 feet tall by about four hundred feet on either side - and still growing.

    The efforts - wether paid of given - are immense. These people will need our help for quite a while.
     
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    I live outside Philadelphia. A couple days after the storm I went past a long, long string of large repair trucks from Louisiana.

    Many thanks to all those who were away from friends and family to get the power back on.

    Pete
     
  10. 1oz

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    Different utility companies have gotten together over the last 15-20 years and have agreed to help one another in case of emergencies .With the power companies doing more with less this is the only way they could survive and shine showing profits .I worked for a Power company as a lineman 35 years ago we had 2/3s more 1st class lineman than they do today and today they are covering close to twice the amount of customers. I had been wondering how long this would go on before coming back home .It's works good if small areas are hit .But when large areas are combined it plays havoc . Yes thanks to the guys out in the field that have to deal with these conditions and extremely long hours .

    Jim
     
  11. SirMissalott

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    A little off topic but my wife commented on how the media isn't covering this storm nearly as much as Katrina?
     
  12. Libra1310

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    I personally was very upset hearing that workers being union and non-union were being turned away. The former president of LIPA ( long island power authority) denied any of the union laborers were turned away. I have friends that work utilities here and they said that it was true. Not by the company but by local union presidents. It makes no difference to me. They are here to help, let em. Again, thanks to everyone that has and is still helping.

    P.S
    I will apologize for the attitude being given to the workers. Some of the people on long island have a feeling of entitlement both rich and poor and have been harassing the workers

    Chris
     
  13. davidjayuden

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    In about 1996 we were without power for a week following a Halloween ice storm, and boy, it sucked. REALLY appreciated the Wichita guys (and others too) coming up to help out.
    Anyway, I second a big THANKS to all those who sacrificed to help out.
    dju
     
  14. likes-to-shoot

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    Calvin MD...just curious,

    just how much skin did you lose off your ass over this union thing???

    You seem to keep bringing it up all the time. Does it bother you that much or is it some other issue?

    I've worked in other jurisdictions where they had a vacation fund and we didn't....Nice little bonus check in the mail a few months after getting home.

    See below from an above post...this is how it works.....

    Don Daley, Business manager for Local 1049 of the IBEW, said no worker was turned away for refusing to sign the assent letters. "We're all about getting the lights on...1049 has not obstructed anyone from coming." He said that the money paid into pension and health funds would benefit the workers, not the fund. "That's their money," Daley said. "I think they just make a request to take their money out, and whatever tax laws there are, they get their money."
     
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