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Terry Jordan Wall Chart

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  1. 101voodoo

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    Rick, have you ever used one? You can save $100 in shells and tickets the first weekend you have one.

    They're an excellent tool, especially in the winter when the weather's too bad to shoot.

    This is a good deal for someone.

    Jim
     
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    Well Rick

    Phil Kiner and Harlan Campbell put it in their videos (without me paying them to do that) and use the chart in their clinics, as does Chris Vendel and Frank Hoppe likes the product too. Ricky Marshall and Randy Ross personally told me they know it works. Twenty-one shooters on last years All-American teams used the Wall chart as a training tool.

    Both Frank Hoppe and Phil Kiner have wrote about the chart a few times in their Trap & Fields articles and talked about how valuable picking the gun up regularly helps create a smooth move to the target.

    Dave Shaeffer just got hold of me through Paul Shaw and wants to use one in his clinics as a teaching aid. When a guy like that just set the singles record running 2200 straight in singles thinks it is a great teaching aid I think the average shooter can trust that over what you think about it.

    Terry.
     
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    Bought one last fall, best money I spent on trapshooting in years!!
     
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    Terry''s wall chart is great for gun mounts. I use mine mostly in the winter or when I am unable to get to a shoot or one of my clubs. Tom
     
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    I would have to say Terry's chart works...if people think it works and you use it enough, it's a great tool. You on the other hand Rick, are simply, a tool.
     
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    I received Terry's chart this past spring and have brought both my singles and handicap averages up (I don't shoot doubles at this time) I would highly recommend this chart to anyone, it is well worth the investment, I know when the snow flies and the bitter cold hits I will use this chart to practice in the comfort of my own home!!!
     
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    Given the relatively small amount of money spent, it is probably a deal. Just dry mounting/firing the gun on the targets is worthwhile (Bassham's book says Russian skeet team dry mounts 1K a day). Throw in some visualization exercises and you have a cheap program.
     
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    There are 1300 Wall Charts in use some by several shooters in the same house, lots by coaches of junior teams, there might be 1800 or more actual chart users.

    These are the type of letters I get back from shooters or comments they made on here. I get great letters from shooters that win way more titles than they ever did before.

    Comments from Wall Chart users

    Simply the best investment I have made in this game. I could not believe the jerky moves you could make to the target, which become quite noticeable when dry firing without the recoil. I took January and February off this year and when I started again in March I was amazed at how smooth everything was right off the bat. Thanks again Terry. Harv.



    I have used Terry’s wall chart for six years now. It has helped me improve my gun mount (more consistent and comfortable where I am putting the gun), and has improved my stamina from doing all the chart exercises. It has saved me thousands of dollars in practice fees and shell costs over the years that I have been using it. It has been a good investment for improving my game in the comfort in my own home.



    Joe Mc Gorman AAA-26-AAA



    I have one. One of the best investments I’ve made. I broke a 97 a couple of weeks ago at Red Mountain and I am shooting better all the time. My better half has improved a great deal she broke a 91 at Red Mt. and is starting to like this sport. Bob.



    I started shooting ATA in l984. Terry took me under his wing and started to coach me. One of the things I remember is his painting, (to scale) of a trap field on his basement wall. It looked just like the background of the Grand. His wall chart has been a valuable tool for me over the last 23 years. As I’ve gone from D class 20 yards to AAA 27. Moving the gun quickly and smoothly to the target is a must and working with Terry’s wall chart will help you do that. His chart is worth every penny. Break them all. Bill Wylie.



    I just wanted to let you know about my experiences with your wall chart. I entered my second ATA shoot this weekend and won C class singles with a 98. I have never shot even close to that before. No doubt about it your chart does work. I had several people come up to me and comment about how smooth and fluid my mount and move is. I have been using the chart two to four times a week as my travel schedule allows. Usually 25 from the l6 yard distance and 25 from the 24 yard distance. I have probably shot less than 25 rounds in the last 3 months. It has helped my confidence tremendously. Thanks for a great product.



    Terry it has really worked out great for me. In the last 2000 I have only missed 11 targets, smooth isn’t the word. I have it set up in the basement now and try to do 100 a night. The thing that helped me the most is pointing the gun in the right spot, getting the picture of where to point the gun. Bill.



    I don’t get on here very often and when I do I try to stay out of product endorsements or non endorsements. But, this is a no brainer if you use it you will be able to tell yourself when you make a good or bad move. I got one from Terry to take with me to clinics (and I am going to use it personally this winter myself), unfortunately I only carry it when I drive and not when I fly so many times my students won’t get the opportunity to actually hands on test it, I think it is an excellent product but, only if you use it. There are lots of things that would help many shooters if they utilized them, unfortunately many times the spirit is willing but the flesh is weak. When that happens it is your fault the product didn’t produce not the product itself AND I get no commission and have not received any monetary re-numeration from Terry.

    Phil Kiner.



    I just got mine from Terry to try for a month 2 weeks ago. I just broke my first 25 after using it. Bernie.



    When I took a clinic from Harlan Campbell he had terry’s Wall Chart with him and set it up as part of his clinic. It was really funny seeing one guy dry fire at the chart and with his left hand flinch, pull the barrel of the gun down about 8-10 inches even with a snap cap. It will expose some faults and give you a smoother move to the target.



    Terry.

    I have been working with the chart more and more and I am seeing a more fluent move to the target. With working with two eyes and the chart my flinch is essentially gone. Thanks again for the advice my flinch is essentially gone.



    I started shooting for the first time last March at the start of our summer league. Most of my scores were in the upper 20’s to low 30’s. I started to use the chart around the July to August time frame. My scores went up immediately my average so far in the winter league is 45 hitting 25 straight 3 times.



    Terry. Just wanted to pop in and tell you how much I like my Wall Chart. I have been using it 3 or 4 nights a week, 200 per night. My move feels so smooth, and for some reason I’m seeing the target a lot better. I won the non-resident Handicap Championship at the Idaho State shoot last weekend with a 98. I also shot my best all-around score of 391 for the non-resident crown. Thanks for your good advice and great product. Greg.





    I think it’s a perfectly logical way to logical way to go about training your mind and body to look and move to the target properly. The system helps “groove” your move to the target. Just ask any good and avid golfer how important it is to develop a “grooved swing” to be consistent and to win. Before using the system I typically averaged from 86-88 in caps. Now I stay around 92 and as high as .935 for the entire year. Buy It. Barry C. Roach.



    I have been using it for a few months now and it really smoothes out your swing and it reinforces the correct lead and sight picture, I highly recommend it, Terry is a great guy and a wealth of information.



    Terry I won 11 trophies at the Illinois State shoot. I have worked hard on the dry-firing, my averages are soaring and it is thanks to you and your chart. Michael.



    I finally got my 100 straight. I would like to thank you so very much for the chart. After all the wins at my state Shoot I have just shot a 97 from my new yardage 24 yards. That is 3 punches in 3 shoots, my singles average is at 94.68 after last year at 90.55. I haven’t shot under a 95 in the last 1200 targets. Michael.



    Terry.



    After a month of practice with the Wall Chart, here are the results from this weekend at Ft. Worth Trap and Skeet Club (Ft. Worth Texas). My handicap average has been 90 (scores ranging from 85 to 92). Over the weekend, I shot a 99 (from the 23 yard line, earning 1 yard), and shot a 98 from the 24 yard line, earning 1 yard). My total handicap score was a 197, the next highest score was a 188. I continue to practice daily and furiously with the Wall Chart, I have a tournament next weekend. Fritz.



    The wall chart struck again!!!

    I shot the singles at the Silver Dollar today and missed (lifted my head) on the third target out and ran the rest for a 99. Didn’t shoot the caps, I haven’t felt this good in a long time. It’s coming---it’s coming.



    Jere.



    I am enjoying the dry-firing practice more than I thought I would. I will practice diligently for the next three weeks and then hit another shoot. I know this method of Practice is going to make a positive difference for me, thanks for a great product.



    I was in a horrible slump when I ordered mine. Immediately my scores jumped back up from the low 90’s to high 90’s again. This product is WELL worth the money. I love mine, better moves, better scores…. You can’t ask for much more.



    Thanks Terry, I received the chart about 2 weeks ago. I started off with 150-200 dry fires once a day and have gone to 125 in the morning and 125 in the evening. What a difference it has already made! I broke my first 100 of this year in registered singles and also won our Thursday night handicap shoot since using the chart. The correct lead and sight picture come instantly and my swing is very smooth and precise. I can only imagine what a few months will do.



    I started using the Wall Chart a bout 3 months ago. I won C class at a local county shoot 2 weeks ago. I broke 48/50, in windy cold weather. I tied for high over-all singles and shot off with a AA and an A class shooters and lost the HOA by 1 target. I have been shooting 23-25 consistently in weekly practice.



    I shot my first registered targets today since getting the wall chart from Terry. Last year the average of my first 5 shoots was 78.2 with a high score of 87. Today the temperature was well below freezing and I shot a 95. I’m very happy with mine. Bill Malcolm.



    Usually, when I’m at a registered shoot, I always start out jittery and nervous and miss targets as a result. What I discovered yesterday, is how I was able to think about the field as a “live” version of the wall chart and easily tuned out all thoughts other than going through the move and pulling the trigger just like I do on the wall chart. Since I have been dry firing outside with the sun at my back, looking at the wall chart taped up on the side of my carport, there was a surprising similarity between the chart and the gun club field. The two activities just blended together in my mind and I was able to ignore the usual set of nerve wracking concerns that take over when I’m shooting registered targets. I was relaxed and consistent and able to turn the shoot into a “bloody drill”.



    I received your wall chart about 2-weeks ago and have been using it for about 1-week now—dry firing l00 rounds a day. It felt a bit awkward at first but after about 75 rounds it started coming together and feeling pretty natural. I immediately realized why I’ve been struggling with the occasional straight-away, there is little room for error there for jerky movement to the target and I found myself jerking to one side or the other on numerous occasions as I clicked the trigger. The wall chart seemed to serve as a freeze frame and I could immediately see where target focus and smoothness is critical for consistent shooting. I caught myself on numerous occasions shooting at the rear edge of the targets-LOSS!!



    I’ve dry fired more than 900 rounds now and have already noticed that my move to the target is considerably smoother and my timing more consistent. I’m also not jerking the trigger like I had been initially. It really showed during the first l00 rounds of dry fire practice, something that I wasn’t really conscious of when shooting on the line. You’ve got a wonderful training aid there Terry! I won’t be mailing it back to you either, my payment check will be in the mail this afternoon. Also, thanks for allowing me to try it before buying it. You can’t beat a deal like that! Incidentally, this “factory 2nd” looks pretty darned good. You’d have to look pretty hard to notice anything “not quite right” about it. The small line in the grass hasn’t distracted me yet and most golf courses don’t even look that good! Thanks again Terry. Hope you have a successful shooting year!



    Hi Terry.



    I have evolved my way of using the chart. I stand at the proper distance with no gun, and visualize the breaks in my mind. I go over my “reset phrases” and just shoot the birds in my head. I find it just as effective as pointing the gun. I spent 15 minutes before the Family Fair shoot on the chart, and on and off visualizing that night while watching TV. I went to the shoot feeling pretty confident and broke the 100 straight (January in Canada).

    Before the Family Fair I had not shot the gun in 6 weeks. I know this doesn’t do a lot for muscle memory but it sure helps you to “stay in the moment” when your shooting. Say Hello to Nancy.



    Pete.



    Since I got the new gun, and started using the chart I’ve won 3 HOA in a row at the state shoot here. One year I won the HOA and the HAA. Have a great Christmas. Thanks for the picture. Greg.



    When I started and when we show anyone the chart it’s jerk city. Ronnie was amazed that he even jerked a bunch. We have both smoothed out and I think for me it’s a combination of the chart and working with Harlan at the Grand. I am finally getting comfortable with what he had me change and where he has me looking. The chart definitely got my flinch problem straightened out. If you want another endorsement you’ve got one here. Thanks for all you’re help wish I had it years ago. Liz.



    I’ve been using Terry’s wall chart for several years and it is an important piece in my training. It helps perfect your gun mount and gives you something familiar to work your eyes with (trap house, sky back ground, clouds and targets). Terry is always helpful and approachable in helping new shooters, he got me shooting a higher stock two years ago and it has help my handicap immensely. Joe McGorman.



    Hi Terry: I received the chart on Thursday and practiced 200 dry fires the same day, 200 on Friday and on Saturday. I shot 50 straight in practice smoking most of the birds. Fantastic training tool! Bernard.



    I am truly enjoying my new wall chart. Just as you predicted moves to the target are becoming better each time I use it. I am really impressed with the quality of the chart. An unexpected bonus is it will invoke nostalgia for a long time for this Sr. Vet. Who is saddened by giving up our site at Vandalia. This year will mark my 45 year at the Grand. Thanks for your tips (snap caps) advice and help. Again, I hope I have the opportunity to meet you in person at the Ohio State shoot or the Grand. Best wishes. Bill.



    It was eleven weeks yesterday since my surgery. I went to the club to try shooting again. I didn’t know what to expect as I had not shot since April 3rd. I had been using your chart for a couple weeks, but thought I might get tired during the first round. I had just bought 10 flats of the 1 oz. Remington Gun Clubs. I had never used that shell before, always the 1 1/8 oz. load. Anyway the 1 oz. broke the targets well and I was surprised when I ran the first trap. I wasn’t tired so we shot another round, another 25. Final score that day was 25-25-25-25 a 100 straight. To say I was pleased would be a gross understatement. I was surprised and shocked! I have witnesses to my shooting. Cindy Speagle, George Tulk, Jim Swansinger and Don Spitz were my squad mates. Not bad for an 80 year old with two glass eyes and a cow valve in his heart. Let it be known that I retired eighteen years ago today. Good shooting to all of you. Earl.



    I practiced with the chart for a few days with your chart doing 200 moves. Wife thinks I’m nuts, all she hears is me calling pull and ejecting hulls into a box in the basement. lol. At the PA. Grand this past weekend in Friday’s preliminary Handicap I won runner-up in the 22-23 yard group. I had to shoot off with two other people (we all had 95’s). After the first round (24’s) there was 2 of us left a 22 yarder and me at 23 yards. In the second round he hit 24 and I ran them. Felt Great! First time in a few shoot offs that I did not choke-lol. I also won runner-up in C class doubles. Thanks great product.



    Well Terry, I just got back from the club. I am very pleased with the progress that I have been making, the chart works. Today we had a little 50/50 shoot, 50 16’s and 50 handicap. On our squad we had an ex All American and another AA Shooter. On the whole shoot I was tied for high gun with a 97. I beat the All American by one and the AA shooter by three. This morning before I left for the club I shot one round on the chart. I shot two practice rounds a 24 and a 25, no one can tell me that the chart doesn’t work.



    On Saturday I shot the highest round I’ve ever shot in a handicap event. My score went like this 20-25-25-24 too bad I had problems on the first trap. Thanks again.



    I thought I would drop you a line and let you know how happy we are with the Wall Chart It has only been a couple of months but what a difference it makes. I would really struggle with a certain target, with the Wall chart I just practice and boom problem over.



    Since we got it I have my first 100 straight in ATA competition and numerous 99’s and 98’s. I shoot a 97 and above on a regular basis now. As a matter of fact if I shoot a 97 I am bummed out. I can remember when a 97 was a time of celebration. The chart has changed all of that.



    I managed a win in our local Zone shoot here taking an A- class trophy with a score of 197. In our local league I am high gun right now a position I have never occupied before. Suzie has run a 125 straight in practice which is just amazing. Both of us now shoot 25 straight with regularity. It’s no longer an odd occurrence. Anyhow thank you for the Wall Chart and all your help. More success to come.



    Best Mike and Suzie Sudz



    Hi Terry.



    Just wanted you to know you can add another State Championship to your list of chart users (2007 Florida Veteran Singles). This was my fourth State Singles Championship since I received the Wall Chart and it took my average to over 98.0.



    Thanks again. Great product!

    John Stenger. Brooksville Florida.



    Terry’s Wall Chart has improved my ability to see the leading edge of the target and to make a smooth and correct move. It has allowed me to get a head start on the season, since practice in the early spring in Minnesota is hard to come by. Terry’s chart is like having a trap field in my back yard and the extra practice shows in my scores!



    Kelsey Zauhar.



    Sincerest thanks for your help; by the way I have gone from consistent 91’s and 92’s in singles to 96’s and 98’s, a big thanks to your chart!!! And I’ve only had it for a couple of months. John.



    Hi Terry.



    It was a pleasure to meet you at the Florida State Shoot. I don’t know if you stayed around for the final results. I had real good days both Saturday and Sunday. I won the Senior Vets State Singles, tied for the Senior Vet Handicap Championship and tied for Senior Vet HOA. Thank God for the Wall Chart I wouldn’t trade that chart for a new car.



    Thanks Again.



    John Stenger.



    Terry.



    So far so good with your chart, I’d like to take credit for my shooting but it has to be the training with your chart. I’ve really been struggling, REALLY STRUGGLING, since early spring. With handicap scores in the mid 80’s from the 20 yard line, I was pretty disgusted since I was a 25 ½ yard shooter just 2 years ago. It just seemed like nothing worked, back to basics, professional gun fitting etc. Everything I could think off except hypnotism!



    Well, since working with your chart for a couple of weeks I shot a 95 and a 96 and got two punches of a half yard. Not exactly ready to challenge Leo Harrison but doing and feeling better. Actually I got it for my better half but it seems she needs a little more time with it.



    Thanks.



    Butch.



    Hi Terry.



    I thought you might want to know if I was making any progress. I use the wall chart everyday that I am not at the gun club. I shoot 100 on the chart, I go right to left, then left to right and then I mix some up. The snap caps are working out good. Well, today I shot in the Richard Leboda Honor Shoot and won the Veteran Trophy with a 92. It was also high in my yardage group (21-23) I am at 22 ½ yards. My singles was a 94 (25-21-24-24) I don’t know what happened on the second trap. I am sure that doing a 100 a day for the last three weeks has really helped. Prior to using the chart, my singles average was 88.52. In the last two registered shoots since using the chart it is 94. Handicap has also improved, it was 85.94 and it is now 90.5. I also find that it seems easier to shoot now than it did before, I have more confidence. I will continue to use the chart every day that I can. Do you think doing 100 moves a day on the chart is enough?



    Earl.



    Hey Terry.



    Things are really improving for me. Have not shot my first 25 but I know it's coming soon. I have not shot worse than a 22 in league in 3 weeks. Folks cannot believe that someone who had not shot a gun before April of this year can consistantly shoot 22-23. I used to fear posts 1 & 5 but now I look forward to them. As long as my footing is right I smoke targets with very little trouble close to the house.



    Can't thank you enough Terry.



    Tom.





    Hi Terry.



    Just thought I'd let you know, I practiced on my chart yesterday working on the quiet eye technique. I also decided to try a mental blocker word "I am still" since one of my faults is starting to move the gun too soon or moving on the call. Also, "I am still" takes about 2 seconds for me to say when I say it calmly to myself. Anyway, I went to my local club this morning and smacked 49 from long yardage and felt very comfortable.



    Thanks again for your help and thoughtful suggestions.



    Doug.
     
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    We got one for the use of our 4H shooting team....it quiet simply saves money, time, and shells. You take a new kid who has no clue where the barrel should be when he shoots, stand him in front of the chart and have him practice his mounts and moves and he gets to see the daylight gap at the end of the barrel and the bird.

    You can stand back and see who is stopping the gun, who is looking back at the barrel, who has a sloppy mount, you can step around in front and check their mount....you can do a lot of trap coaching before they ever fire a shot.

    After a few sessions, let them shoot some targets....at this point they have a mental picture of where the barrel needs to be and more targets break. Now you can stand behind them and say you're over, under, left , or right while they burn box after box of shells until the light bulb goes off in their head.

    Or can really help them get on target faster by using the chart. It does work. Nothing beats running lead through the barrel...but the chart can save a lot of lead and lost targets....that saves the parents money and the kid actually gets to shoot more in the end.
     
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    Between my wife and I, we now have three of Terry's Charts.

    We have an 8' Sparta set up on our enclosed porch, an 8' Sparta that stays with us in the motor home while attending shoots, and a 10' Vandalia loaner so our friends can try it and see why we are so happy using "The Chart".

    Works for us, Thanks Terry for a great product !!!

    Dave in SC
     
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    The boss of the house using her chart..

    Dave in SC


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    You fellers are wasting your time on Rick, he knows alot less than he thinks he knows. I have a chart and use it regularly....not only saves money on shells, entry/practice fees and travel expenses but it works and has helped me! Mine, #109 has many times over paid for itself and won't be for sale. It's one thing to bash something someone is selling because you have negative thoughts about it, but it is rude to try to stifle a sale on here. Competing in trap would be alot tougher if everyone had one of Terry's charts! Thanks Terry!!! Biff
     
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    How do you use this chart to its full potential?
     
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    Thanks for the all the positive threads.

    I really do understand the negativity toward the chart. When I first read years ago to pick your gun up 50 to 100 times a day and point it in the mirror etc. all top shooters recommended that. I thought how could that help but I did some and you did see some improvements.

    I designed the Wall Chart to make working out more interesting. I was AA27AA and spending a lot of time training retrievers for field trials and shooting little or no practice. After lots of chart use I started winning more often.

    I had times where I got busy and thought I had talent and went to some state shoots without doing any work on the chart. The results, wins and 100's at 16 yards just were not there if I didn't log the extra hours moving the gun. There were so many extra wins when I took the time to pick the gun up every day I just did it year after year. I knew lots of times I was moving the gun smoothly enough but the chart use seemed like it was the mental edge that you were prepared mentally to win.

    Terry.
     
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    PM sent Terry.


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    i cant wait to get one
     
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    Your right Rick about your opinion you have one just like everyone else. I don't think opinions are best stated by calling someone a "sucker".But there again my opinion as is "It's not what you say it's how you say it.

    Corey
     
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    You are right Rick. You are entitled to your opinion. But a turd is still a turd.
     
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    just curious rick what's your singles avg?
     
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    "I am still"

    Wow. that has merit.
     
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