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Teacher's union endorses Obumer for second term

Discussion in 'Politics, Elections & Legislation' started by John Galt, Jul 4, 2011.

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  1. John Galt

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    Loser union supports loser POTUS. Birds of a feather flock together.
     
  2. Joe Potosky

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    the aftermath of the Wisconsin Teacher Union Battle...

    Union curbs rescue a Wisconsin school district

    "This is a disaster," said Mark Miller, the Wisconsin Senate Democratic leader, in February after Republican Gov. Scott Walker proposed a budget bill that would curtail the collective bargaining powers of some public employees. Miller predicted catastrophe if the bill were to become law -- a charge repeated thousands of times by his fellow Democrats, union officials, and protesters in the streets.

    Now the bill is law, and we have some very early evidence of how it is working. And for one beleaguered Wisconsin school district, it's a godsend, not a disaster.

    The Kaukauna School District, in the Fox River Valley of Wisconsin near Appleton, has about 4,200 students and about 400 employees. It has struggled in recent times and this year faced a deficit of $400,000. But after the law went into effect, at 12:01 a.m. Wednesday, school officials put in place new policies they estimate will turn that $400,000 deficit into a $1.5 million surplus. And it's all because of the very provisions that union leaders predicted would be disastrous.

    In the past, teachers and other staff at Kaukauna were required to pay 10 percent of the cost of their health insurance coverage and none of their pension costs. Now, they'll pay 12.6 percent of the cost of their coverage (still well below rates in much of the private sector) and also contribute 5.8 percent of salary to their pensions. The changes will save the school board an estimated $1.2 million this year, according to board President Todd Arnoldussen.

    Of course, Wisconsin unions had offered to make benefit concessions during the budget fight. Wouldn't Kaukauna's money problems have been solved if Walker had just accepted those concessions and not demanded cutbacks in collective bargaining powers?

    "The monetary part of it is not the entire issue," says Arnoldussen, a political independent who won a spot on the board in a nonpartisan election. Indeed, some of the most important improvements in Kaukauna's outlook are because of the new limits on collective bargaining.

    In the past, Kaukauna's agreement with the teachers union required the school district to purchase health insurance coverage from something called WEA Trust -- a company created by the Wisconsin teachers union. "It was in the collective bargaining agreement that we could only negotiate with them," says Arnoldussen. "Well, you know what happens when you can only negotiate with one vendor." This year, WEA Trust told Kaukauna that it would face a significant increase in premiums.

    Now, the collective bargaining agreement is gone, and the school district is free to shop around for coverage. And all of a sudden, WEA Trust has changed its position. "With these changes, the schools could go out for bids, and lo and behold, WEA Trust said, 'We can match the lowest bid,'" says Republican state Rep. Jim Steineke, who represents the area and supports the Walker changes. At least for the moment, Kaukauna is staying with WEA Trust, but saving substantial amounts of money.

    Then there are work rules. "In the collective bargaining agreement, high school teachers only had to teach five periods a day, out of seven," says Arnoldussen. "Now, they're going to teach six." In addition, the collective bargaining agreement specified that teachers had to be in the school 37 1/2 hours a week. Now, it will be 40 hours.

    The changes mean Kaukauna can reduce the size of its classes -- from 31 students to 26 students in high school and from 26 students to 23 students in elementary school. In addition, there will be more teacher time for one-on-one sessions with troubled students. Those changes would not have been possible without the much-maligned changes in collective bargaining.

    Teachers' salaries will stay "relatively the same," Arnoldussen says, except for higher pension and health care payments. (The top salary is around $80,000 per year, with about $35,000 in additional benefits, for 184 days of work per year -- summers off.) Finally, the money saved will be used to hire a few more teachers and institute merit pay.

    It is impossible to overstate how bitter and ugly the Wisconsin fight has been, and that bitterness and ugliness continues to this day with efforts to recall senators and an unseemly battle inside the state Supreme Court. But the new law is now a reality, and Gov. Walker recently told the Milwaukee Journal Sentinel that the measure will gain acceptance "with every day, week and month that goes by that the world doesn't fall apart."

    In the Kaukauna schools, the world is not only not falling apart -- it's getting better.
     
  3. bigdogtx

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    You can't be surprised,,,,the union has NEVER supported a Republican,,,,wonder why????
     
  4. stokinpls

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    Republicans aren't usually socialists?
     
  5. John Galt

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    They didn't have to endorse anybody- that would have made more sense than to endorse a socialist loser- oops, that's redundant.
     
  6. Brian in Oregon

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    Weasels of a feather weasel together.
     
  7. Rick Barker

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    It amazes me, the faith and following the unions have in the Democrat Party.

    Even when the Democrat Party sometimes throws unions under the bus.

    It was Ted Kennedy's crusade to de-regulate the trucking industry in the late 70's that caused so many large carriers to go out of business and in turn, cause many Teamsters to lose their jobs.

    Yet there they were, cheering Joe Biden the other day, who when addressing them, warned them not to vote Republican, or they would be on their own. They hooted and cheered, as always.
     
  8. Bob Schultz

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    The unions that represent teachers have been bilking the teachers out of billions...yes that's right, billions of dollars of retirement money. They charge almost usurious fees and rates to "manage" the retirement funds. The sheep we let educate our kids are barely smart enough to get out of the rain. Unions get fat while the teachers they represent get measly retirement benefits that, if managed by a private firm, would easily give them double what they get now. Idiots.

    That's why you always hear them pissing and moaning about not having any money...they gave it all to the unions who were telling them they were "taking care of them". Sure, what the unions do to them is near criminal, but they are supposed to be the smart ones!

    Bob Schultz
     
  9. halfmile

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    Here's the frosting on the cake:

    I live in Green Bay, 20 miles from Kaukauna. I have not read a single word in our local rag or heard anything on the news about this.

    I am believing to think we need a union. A union of conservatives to hit the left leaning media where it hurts.......in their pocketbook.

    Telling sponsors we will not buy prodicts that support a one sided journalism agenda might help.

    The left is few but loud. We are many but not loud enough.

    think about it.

    HM
     
  10. birdogs

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    HM,

    There has never been a conservative leader willing to lead a boycott. They all studiously avoid even suggesting that. I have always conducted my own boycott of companioes and products which I feel support left-wing enterprises. I do not watche NBC nor do I buy GE products. I haven't bought or read the NY Times in years. Othere must be doing the same thing because all of these entities find themselves in reduced circumstances recently.

    It would be great if there could be an organized effort to support our friends and boycott those who support left-wing causes. It would only take a few weeks of an effective boycott to bring these companies around to at least a neutral posution.
     
  11. daddiooo

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    I'd venture a guess that when he loses they'll all go to DC and protest that the election was stolen.
     
  12. John Galt

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    It gets even worse. The NEA also has decided to tax all its members another $10 per year to help get Obuma reelected. Like Bob said, they will then bitch about not getting paid enough. Pathetic.
     
  13. halfmile

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    Wisconsin has done that for years. Governor Doyle (rot in hell) whose wife happens to be a teacher, let the WEA have full run of the Capitol.

    Democrap reps and Senators pushed in with union bucks, and lush bennies for the teachers while the boys stole whatever they could get to pay off their pals.

    Now the courts have said the money stolen from the Transportation fund and the Patients compensation fund has to be paid back. They stole the tobacco settlement money too, nothing said about that yet.

    A couple fingers in the dyke is not quite enough here, but we seem to have a start. Much weeping and wailing and gnashing of teeth from the left.

    Anything that can be done to make the conservative voice heard will be welcome.

    HM
     
  14. shot410ga

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    This means presently, that the highest paid teacher with benefits will get $115,000 per year for 184 working days or $78.12 per hour for every hour worked. Not bad for teaching a bunch or rug rats.....I think I'll drop retirement and go back to college for a teaching certificate and move to Wisconsin.
     
  15. mrskeet410

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    Who is Obumer?
     
  16. Bruce Specht

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    As a member of the NEA all I can say is if I could I'd quit. Ignorance know no bounds. Can't these idiots see that the Democrats will be the ruin of unions? They ridden the backs of unions only to destroy them soon.
     
  17. John Galt

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    That was a typo Mrs. Keet. I meant Obuma. Thanks for pointing out my typo.
     
  18. BAD 303

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    Obumer,Obuma,Hussein,Barry,Barack = Socialist,Marxist,Community Organizer, Worst president in history of this country,Carter on roids,FAILURE
     
  19. tedingraham

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    +1 Bruce.

    I too am forced to join the Ohio Education Assoc. / National Education Association ($700/year). I would opt-out if I was allowed.

    I support what Gov. John Kasich is doing in Ohio with Senate Bill 5.

    Ted

    Who is John Galt?
     
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