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  1. curious2

    curious2 TS Member

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    We recently had a discussion of just where the target height should be measured from. Because of water level our trap is not level with post 3. Do we measure from where the bird lies in the machine before firing or where it exits the machine? This may not seem to be much but the backgroung is not the best.

    thanks
    Curious
     
  2. Harold

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    The rule book says "It is recommended that the throwing surface (throwing arm or plate)of the trap machine be on the same level as that of Post 3 and the target height setting pad."

    It doesn't say if it is the front or back of the plate, but there can't be more than a few inches difference. Don't worry about it. There is plus or minus a foot allowed in the target height setting anyway.
     
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    It should be from the plane of the 16 yd line of the # 3 shooting station. That said, Given your situation, You could also try it from where the target sits on the machine. In either case the spot for the T-bar is still 26 yards from the post 3 16 yd line 16 yd line. T-bar height should be 8-10 ft. Use which ever method gives the best target presentation.





    Jim
     
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    As said above, the height s/b measured from the level of the #3 pad. Try to get the machine so the target is as close to this as you can, and try to make sure all your traps are the same height compared to post 3. They don't have to be level with post three, but get the difference consistent on all traps if you can.
     
  5. Harold

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    Well, he said the trap cannot be put at the same height as the No. 3 pad due to the water level. So given that, it is a better idea to set the height 9 ft above the throwing arm than 9 feet above the No. 3 pad. This will result in the target being launched at the same angle with respect to horizontal.
     
  6. Old Doc

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    The height is measured at 10 yards(30 feet) from point B, not 27 feet. D Winter
     
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    Who said anything about 27 feet? Did someone delete a post?



    Jim
     
  8. BigM-Perazzi

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    <i>Target height may also be set based on the height of the target at ten
    yards as measured above the level of the trap arm in the house rather
    than the height as measured from the number 3 shooting station.</i>

    This is the recommended procedure at facilities where the installation of
    traps in the houses is inconsistent as to height.



    Point B is defined as the intersection of a line measured 1 foot 6 inches
    or 2 feet 6 inches from the outside vertical wall (farthest from the shooting
    stations) of the trap house and the centerline of the trap house. Please
    review Diagram II on page 56. Clubs constructing new trap house and
    fields should use the same point B measurement as their existing fields
    to keep all fields as consistent as possible.
     
  9. phirel

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    The target height should be measured from the height of the target on the arm as stated by BigM-Perazzi. The critical perception with target height is the distance the target moves above the house. I do believe the best way to measure 10 yards from point B is to simply measure 26 yards from post three.

    Pat Ireland
     
  10. gcbluerock

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    while we are on the subject of target setting, where can a radar gun be purchased for setting target speed, and what is the recomended speed?
     
  11. Bob Schultz

    Bob Schultz Well-Known Member Supporting Vendor

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    gcbluerock,

    We carry a number of radar guns starting at $185.00 Give us a call.

    Toll free 800-684-6329 Monday - Friday 10am to 6pm Eastern time.

    Thanks,

    Bob Schultz
     
  12. Harold

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    gcbluerock,

    The above web site has some info on use of a radar gun for setting targets. I thought they had something on the ATA web site but I can't find it there any more.
     
  13. gcbluerock

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    Thanks Bob
     
  14. Neil Winston

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    Here's the ATA link to the target setting guide with radar.

    Neil
     
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