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TALKED TO A RETIRED GUNSMITH!

Discussion in 'Shooting Related Threads' started by senior smoke, Dec 8, 2009.

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  1. senior smoke

    senior smoke Well-Known Member

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    HELLO:
    a while back i went to a gun show and ran into a old friend of mine who is a retired gunsmith. over coffee, he started telling me of some of the wierd request that he had received by his customers over the years. he said one guy came into his shop one day with a beautiful ithaca 4E and the guy wanted him to put a cutts on his gun. my friend spent sometime trying to talk the guy out of it, and the guy said if you don't do it, i will find another gunsmith who will. so he helped the guy devalve his gun.

    he than told me about a shooter who shot a model 12 trap gun. he said the shooter was out at the waukesha gun club on a sunday, after he and his friends shot trap they decided to shoot skeet. the guy in question did not own a skeet gun, so instead of trying someone elses skeet gun, he went into the garage at the club and took a hack saw and sawed off the barrel so he could shoot skeet. on monday, this same guy came into his shop and asked if he could clean up the cut he made to the barrel to make it look more presentable.


    if you are a gunsmith, or just know of shooters that had a wierd request that they had made to have work done to their guns, please share them with us.

    steve balistreri
     
  2. DoubleAuto

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    Not a gunsmith, but I will never forget the man that came into the old Clay's Sporting Goods store in Nashville, TN in the early 1960's looking for an over and under to take quail hunting in Texas. He did not own a shotgun and was leaving on the hunting trip the next day. The man wanted a Browning Superposed but the store did not have an open choked Superposed. After talking to the store manager for a little while, he asked the store manager if he paid up front for the gun, would the store manager shorten the barrel to take the choke out the barrels? The store manager explained that he only had a hacksaw to do the cutting. To make a long story short, the store manager ended up taking 4 inches off of a brand new Superposed set of barrels with a hacksaw (and he certainly wasn't a gunsmith). The cut off section of barrels stayed up by the cash register until the original store location closed.

    DoubleAuto
     
  3. country gentleman

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    A customer once asked me to superglue his head to the gunstock so he wouldnt lift his head. We were at the grand. He had missed the last 5 straightaways in a row.

    I solved the problem, but it didnt involve any glue. He was so frustrated, he was almost serious with the request. Todd
     
  4. phirel

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    When I was active in engraving, twice I was asked to engrave ladies, not covering all of their body parts, on guns. I refused the jobs. I can draw dogs and ducks, but I can't draw ladies.

    Pat Ireland
     
  5. shadow

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    I watched "Doc" Laubscher remove a brand new Midas Grade Superposed from the trunk of his car..shoot it a few times and then...............He sat down on a bench and started whittling long,thick strips of wood from the stock with a pocket knife.

    This is the very same man that holds the Indiana state record in singles. He MISSED 100 straight at the State shoot several years ago.
     
  6. OldRemFan

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    Back in the 70's when I was doing some gunsmithing a guy from Great Bend, KS. called me and wanted to know if I could help him fix a shotgun so he could duck hunt with it. We set up an appointment and when he arrived that day and walked in he had no hands, just a pincer type hook in place of hands. Both had been burned off in a high voltage electrical accident when he worked for a power company. We worked out a solution by building a special trigger guard where he could insert one side of the hook behind the trigger and the other side of the hook in front of the trigger and he could fire it by closing the hook, and could still support the stock end. A special loop was made and installed on the barrel so he could hold and swing the gun with the other hook. He later called me and said it worked great. That was one job I couldn't charge for. Anyone who liked to hunt that much deserved all the help I could give him.
     
  7. senior smoke

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    these stories are interesting. Pat:-now that i think of it, i have never seen any engraving with ladies on the gun. one story i forgot about. a friend saved up for a k80 combo set. he gets the gun and shoots it very well. he takes the gun out to the place that he purchased the gun and the owner asked him if he would trade the new over and under barrels he has,for a used pair of barrels that are a different length, but they have $500.00 worth of barrel work. he said an all american is looking for his length over and under barrels. my friend said ok, makes the trade, they make sure the barrels fit his receiver. when he takes the gun home inside the case, the different over aND UNDER BARRELS ARE ETCHED WITH THE NAME OF THE ALL AMERICAN ON THEM. THIS SAME GUY RUNS 100 STRIGHT WITH THE SINGLE BARREL AND DECIDES TO PATTERN THE GUN. HE DOES NOT LIKE HOW THE PATTERN LOOKS ON PAPER. so he takes the gun to a local gun smith have more barrel work done, despite the gunsmith saying you just ran a 100?? after additional barrel work, he broke an 84 in the singles event, the gun was sold at a very low price.
    steve
     
  8. 391 shooter

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    Thanks guys, these are great reads.
     
  9. Auctioneer

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    In a gunshop a guy came in the shop wanting to have choke tubes put in. The gun he had was a presitation Browning A-5 that was given to his uncle who was a Gen in the army. It was all engraved. The owner of the shop tried to talk him out of it telling him to just buy another barrel and that what he was asking would kill the value of the gun. The kid just didn't want to hear it and wanted the work done. The shop owner said NO he would not distroy such a gun. The kid left and I hope and so does the shop owner that other gunsmiths doesn't do the work.

    In another shop some people would bring in Fox Sterlingworths wanting the barrels shorten. He wouldn't do it because he loved the FS.

    There was a gunsmith an OLD SCHOOL GUNSMITH that had his standards. If you brought in a gun that another gunsmith worked on and didn't do the job right he would look at you and say " you should have brought it to me first and it would have been done right. He worked on it you take it back to him". He was also brought another gun that a farmer drove over his FN sporter rifle with his tractor. He had a friend take it to the gunsmith. He looked at it asked what happened and then looked at the guys friend and said "if he doesn't respect the gun like he should tell him to fix it himself". Gave him the gun back and he left. The guy has yet to have it fixed and its been 30 years.
     
  10. cubancigar2000

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    Back in the 60's there was a gun store owned by a very well known and expert gunsmith named Berl Tillman. Tillmans Guns Fort Wayne Indiana. He was known to be wealthy and quite different. He went to the Cadillac store and purchased a new Caddy Eldorado " 1961" He immediately drove it to my shop just three blocks away and left it for me to cut off the rear fins ( quarter panels) I was one of a few still doing lead work and he wanted no glass filler in his car. About 20 - 25 years later I bought the car at the kruse Classic Car Auction for a song. He had some guns that he had done some strange things to also. I bought my Browning Broadway trap gun new from him for $500 in the early 60's
     
  11. BigM-Perazzi

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    Senior Smoke, surely, you jest!!
    Pat, You need to keep a breast of things..



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    I once asked the owner of the gun, 'doesn't that distract you?' 'No, he replied ' it only distracts those I shoot with'
     
  12. blkcloud

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    I have had a dozen or so people in the past years bring in various parts and drawings wanting me to machine them to fit in ak 47's and ar 15's... each one guaranteed me that it was NOT to make the gun fully automatic..
     
  13. rocktire

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    Saw a guy drill holes in his barrels with a cordless drill calling it porting. As you can imagine the gun was scratched to pieces cause he didn't have a center punch.
     
  14. redhawk44

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    As a Machinist I have done a lot of drilling and tapping on shotguns over the years for the mounting of scopes.

    Now usually it is on guns that are of low value and so it doesn't hurt anything, but when this guy showed up at my house with a mint Browning 20 ga A5 Lightweight, I said no, explaining that it was just too nice a gun to mount a scope on.

    He called the next day to thank me because he had taken it to a local gun shop for apprasial and they told him it was worth in the neighborhood of $1000.
     
  15. senior smoke

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    BigM- impressive!
    steve
     
  16. Sigraph

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    didn't witness this first hand, but a friend of mine was in a gunshop and the owner (also gunsmith) was a well known a**hole. Some guy came in with a cheap pistol he'd picked up from a family member and didn't know anything about guns. All he did was ask the owner what kind of gun it was and what it was worth. The owner took out a dollar bill, rolled it up and stuck it in the barrel - handed it back to poor guy and told him to go throw it in the river and he could say he'd lost something.
     
  17. birdogs

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    I saw photops of several Lucciano Bosis shotguns which had naked women engraved all over the action. These were not classic nudes but were clearly pornographic.
     
  18. ronbo142

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    Back when I started shooting Skeet at Flint Skeet and Trap in Albany GA, Billy Lark (I am sure some of you remember Billy) who delt in highgrade K-32'/80's ect had a Porno K32 that he brought out to the range to show to the rednecks. Truly a piece of art but not for the young.

    A few years later after Billy had passed away I was in Rocky Mt NC at the Old Hickory GC shooting in a Skeet Shoot and was admiring the gun rack when I saw the same gun. I asked Who Owns this? One of the Doctors said he did and I asked what his wife said, and I quote. "You can keep the gun if I can have my swimming pool" He said the gun was still more expensive.

    Ronbo
     
  19. vpr80

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    Damn it people, this post is worthless without pictures!
     
  20. senior smoke

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    over the years i have met some really nice gunsmiths. like any profession i have also met a few that had personalties like junkyard dogs. i don't know who was worse, angry gunsmiths, or cooks in the army?
    steve balistreri
     
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