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Taking a Shotgun overseas

Discussion in 'Shooting Related Threads' started by ESMDHokie, Sep 1, 2009.

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  1. ESMDHokie

    ESMDHokie TS Member

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    All,

    I need help finding out what I need to do in order to take a firearm overseas, specifically to Scotland in the UK. I need info. on US customs and taking it out of the country and getting it into the UK, I heard you need to go through US customs months in advanced... This collegiate shoot I've just been invited to is in 11 weeks and I hope it's not too soon to get paperwork squared away. The people across the pond say they can square away the permit I need to visit with a shotgun.

    Thanks,

    Phil
     
  2. HSLDS

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    You will need a UK visitors permit for the shotgun. It can take MONTHS to get, so jump on it now (someone in the UK will have to act as your sponsor for the trip and permit). They are really touchy about firearms in the UK. You will need to declare it before you board the flight (at check-in). On landing the bag will be hand delivered to you and you will be escorted to customs to verify the paperwork.

    As far as the US side is concerned the easiest thing to do is take the shotgun to a US Customs House and get a customs declaration for it (proves you own it in the USA), when you return with it to the US that should suffice to bring it back into the US. Be careful here because you are technically trying to take a firearm into a Federal building - have a friend go with you and ask the guards how they want you to proceed before you try to take the shotgun inside...
     
  3. EuroJoe

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    In the UK there are "shotgun" permits and " Firearm" permits. Shotgun are for o/u or sxs double guns, firearm permit req'd for autoloaders. Best to apply thru CPSA several mos. in advance.
     
  4. 31 Pump

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    Would it not be easier to UPS the gun there and have then UPS it back to you when you got home. I don't know if that is an option but it sounds easier.

    Glenn
     
  5. ronbo142

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    If you are using an outfitter he or she would be helping with the getting into UK process. The getting back into the US requires the custom certificate as provided above. Recomend that you get 3 - 4 REAL Copies. I keep one on me and one in the case and one in a safty deposit box.

    Ronbo
     
  6. Baber

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    Flying with the gun is not a real problem. Not any different that here in the US except there are a few European airlines like Ryanair that will not take a firearm. You must have a UK Firearm permit. This permit will list by serial number the gun(s) you have. This can take some time to get so start yesterday. Forget the Autoloader. You might get a permit or you might not in the UK but you will not get it in Australia and some other countries so its not worth the hassle.

    As stated previously go to the local US Customs with your and fill out a declaration. Do this on anything of value items such as cameras, Rolex Watches etc. This will avoid any problems when you return.

    Tom
     
  7. Joe Potosky

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    http://ukinusa.fco.gov.uk/en/faqs/tourist-info/firearms
     
  8. Barry C. Roach

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    Without help from your sponsor and the UK tournament organizers, I wouldn't send my guns anywhere in Europe.
     
  9. Dahaub

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    I had a friend who took guns to Britian and the nice people at the airport they entered at gave them both he and his wife a "cavity search" hope you don't go thru that abuse. Dan
     
  10. Jerseyshooter

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    I travel approx. 200,000 miles per year, most of it overseas. My suggestion (for what it is worth) is that you are much better off renting a gun, loaner gun, etc. Flying with a firearm is becoming a real pain (note the permit discussion) but even car rental, having one in the car, etc. becomes a chancy thing. If you can possibly avoid it, just get someone to loan you one. God know they just have Holland and Hollands as well as Purdey's just lying about in piles! Best regards, RICH
     
  11. The Boy

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    Leave the gun at home, take your wood with you.
     
  12. dhwbailey

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    You have to join CPSA. Go here and join. Once you do that, find the permit section on their web site. They will apply for the shotgun permit. You have to give them entry and exit dates. I don't think US customs care because you are not permanently exporting the firearm

    The whole exercise will cost to upwards of $150 I would guess.

    Once you get over there, make sure you declare the firearm. They will check you into the country. When you leave, customs will check you out of the country.

    Sometimes your firearm will come off on the main luggage carousel, sometimes it goes to a special place to be collected.

    You will need the shotgun certificate to buy ammo. They won't sell it to you without it.

    The Brits are well organized and will do all the paperwork with little or no hassle.

    Remember, you are guest in their country, and they make the rules. Just follow them and you will have no trouble.
     
  13. Joe Potosky

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    Prior to leaving the US you need a Customs Form 4457, as this is the document you will need to show US customs when re-entering the US with the firearm.

    The form may be processed ahead of time and remains valid for re-importation of the registered articles for as long as the document is legible. It takes only minutes to complete. Customs will require make, model, and serial number.

    Years ago, it was rare when they wanted to see the firearm to verify the serial number, but in past years having the firearm with you is a must. Keep it in your vehicle when you go to customs. They will come out to verify the serial number.

    Contact the regional U.S. Customs office in your region and arrange to have this done prior to your trip.

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    * American Airlines - Will not accept firearms in checked baggage to/from the United Kingdom
     
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