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SURVEY: 1oz. LOADS OR 11/8oz. LOADS FROM THE 16?

Discussion in 'Shooting Related Threads' started by Trap2, Mar 15, 2010.

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  1. Trap2

    Trap2 Well-Known Member

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    I very seldom post a thread asking for a survey, but a thread here caught my attention, and now my curisoty is peaked, since there are no facts, or figures, to support any of the answers. Please answer this survey addressing ONLY the following questions:

    1) 1oz. or 11/8oz of shot from the 16 yard line? (71.2's or 8's not important)

    2) Current 16 yard average over your past 1000 registered singles targets?

    3) Total number of all registered targets shot to date? (Approximately)

    4) Total number years of registered shooting?

    This survey should help answer, in an intelligent and straight forward way, the questions asked about 1) What most shooters use, 2) The highest singles averages held with which load, 3) Over the largest amount of registered targets shot, 4) By the shooters with the most experience.

    A survey doen't mean a thing unless there is enough data collected to draw an intelligent set of conclusions, so let's do this one right. This way, beginning shooters, as well as seasoned shooters, can get the proper prospective on determining the results of a very vague question.

    Here are my answers:

    1) I shoot 11/8oz at the 16 yard line, always.

    2) Current 16 yard average over 1000 singles targets is .976%

    3) I am approaching 150,000 registered targets

    4) I have been shooting for 35 years

    Let's see if we can draw any hard, concrete, conclusions to this survey..... Dan Thome (Trap2)
     
  2. likes-to-shoot

    likes-to-shoot Well-Known Member

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    I shoot both 1 oz and 1 1/8 at 1180 fps.

    16 yrd average is 95.59

    I have 8250 singles, 8150 handicap (24 yrd) and 4150 doubles.

    2010 will be my 6th year shooting.

    Bill
     
  3. al391claybuster

    al391claybuster TS Member

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    I shoot 1oz of 8.5's or 9's @ 1145 for 16yds.

    Current 16yd ave over last 1000, is 95.0

    I have only about 2100 registered singles targets w/PITA.

    This will be my 4th year, but only was able to shoot 100 singles last year due to illness of my parents. They both passed last summer, so this year I plan to shoot more if possible. Thanks David
     
  4. wolfram

    wolfram Well-Known Member

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    1) 1 Oz handloads prefered

    2) 98.7%

    3) about 30K

    4) In my tenth year
     
  5. hunter44

    hunter44 Well-Known Member

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    One ounce handloads for 16's

    96.33

    4000

    2nd year
     
  6. Pocatello

    Pocatello Active Member

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    1. Usually 1 oz for singles

    2. 93.9

    3. 29K singles, 33K handicap, 16K doubles

    4. Since 1978, with about a ten-year break during the '90s.
     
  7. jdsfarms

    jdsfarms Well-Known Member

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    1) 1oz 7 1/2 @ 1180 fps from the 16

    2) 94.29

    3) 11000 registered singles targets

    4) 11 years
     
  8. Dr.Longshot

    Dr.Longshot Banned Banned

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    I prefer 1 1/8th oz #8s at 1145fps for 16s. And targets being thrown must be considered, Federal targets I would use 3 dram 7 1/2s for registered and 6s for for all other game shoots like buddies., White Flyers use the lite 8s. Lawrys use 3- 7 1/2s.

    I and fellow shooters have noticed how haard the Federal targets are breaking.

    The club could not shoot the federals up fast enough because of shooters bitching.

    Gary Bryant
    Dr.longshot
     
  9. grnberetcj

    grnberetcj Active Member

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    I primarily use 1 oz. (with 17 grs. of 700X) for singles and both shots of doubles. Fast, light recoil and will smokeball targets if I do my job.

    2009:

    Singles avg: 97.43%

    Doubles avg: 92.25%

    Curt
     
  10. AveragEd

    AveragEd Well-Known Member

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    First, I have to ask why the importance of statistics from only registered targets. They all break the same when the same load hits them in the same place.

    I use one-ounce loads almost exclusively for singles. If an extra one-eighth of an ounce - that's not a whole lot - of pellets make the difference between a hit and a miss, I need to shoot closer to 'em. My arthtitic shoulder joint likes those light-recoiling loads a lot better, too.

    I no longer shoot registered targets but my last ATA singles average (2006) was .9850. These days, it would probably be two or three targets lower but that isn't the fault of the shells - I never know if my "good" eye is going to show up or not.

    I didn't check the ATA Shooter Information Center but the total of my registered targets is probably around 30,000.

    I've been shooting trap for 22 years (I don't count a few hundred targets I registered in the mid-70s).

    Ed
     
  11. timb99

    timb99 Well-Known Member

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    One ounce (8-1/2's at about 1160 fps, per Kevin Lewis' chronograph)

    About 94.5 over my last 1000 (I'm apparently not nearly as good as I think I am)

    About 6000 registered singles targets (about 12,000 combined)

    Been shooting registered for about 7 years.
     
  12. zzt

    zzt Well-Known Member

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    1oz #8

    95.1% over last 1000

    14,650

    5 years
     
  13. Trap2

    Trap2 Well-Known Member

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    Ed... The reasoning for tracking only registered targets is the fact that, FOR THE MOST PART, registered shooters know what they always shoot for singles, keep track of their averages a lot closer than a casual shooter does, and have the ability to demonstrate, on paper, their averages over a given number of targets. They also have the knowledge of which load they feel breaks the singles targets the best for them since higher averages are their goal. Not all casual shooters really care how well they do, and have a tendency to shoot whatever shell/load that is cheap, readily available, and just generally breaks targets. Registered shooter represent a much better "control group" than do casual shooters, resulting in much more reliable/verifiable information..... Dan
     
  14. LDAdd

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    1) All 1 oz 8's for singles and doubles, I have shot plenty of 1 1/8 for singles and at my level it really doesn't seem to matter. Less recoil is better.

    2) Average is 95-96% normally but will have a serious hiccup now and then.

    3) 200 more targets (probably this weekend) will make 150,000 PITA targets, and I have a much smaller amount of ATA targets on the books. This is PITA country...No Calif, Oregon, Washington, Idaho, etc. Nothing against ATA.

    4) Regestered first targets in 1976, first trip to 27 in '79, off and on 27 since then, and "Peter's Principle" certainly took over. For those of you unfamiliar with "Old Peter", he says that in most human endeavors (career, sports, education, etc.) almost everyone is eventually promoted to their "level of incompetence" (from which it is difficult descend to your real level)and that is certainly the case with most of us on or near the 27 yard line.

    But it's all fun....

    Larry
     
  15. Michael Jobe

    Michael Jobe TS Member

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    1. 1 1/8 oz
    2. 95.5 (no excuse for this not being two birds higher)
    3. 8250
    4. this is the start of my 5th year.

    ~Michael
     
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