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Support USPS..NOT UPS Stores

Discussion in 'Shooting Related Threads' started by dolphin77, Apr 11, 2011.

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  1. dolphin77

    dolphin77 Member

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    I have shipped several guns, etc thru USPS Priority Mail and always had good service....I stopped at a UPS Store today to ship a reloader and was informed that they do not ship anything related to firearms. I realize that UPS Stores are not directly related with UPS, but thats a little over the top.....I'll never walk into a UPS Store again....JMHO...WC
     
  2. sliverbulletexpress

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    Ups stores are individually owned and usually staffed by clueless hourly employees. You can't judge them all by one.

    Also you might keep in mind that as a privately owned company they have the right to refuse service to anyone they chose, this is the part of our democracy that works against us sometimes but I wouldn't have it any other way.
     
  3. RunGunIPSC

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    The problem with UPS and Fed-Ex privately owned stores is the can charge whatever they want. They will normally take you for whatever they can get. I watched a guy that was desperate to overnite an envelope from a privately owned FE store. They wanted $40 & would not guarentee it while the PO would have done it for $18. I understand about overhead but the PO has it also. I normally use a personal FE account to ship & if a gun take it to the PO or the FE owned distribution center. I just spoke with a big dealer that deals in collector pistols. He uses FE 2nd day & refuses to use PO because of poor claim problems. He has been in business for 30+ yrs. Krieghoff Ottsville uses UPS. Rock Island Auctions that ships millions in firearms uses FE & refuses to use UPS,too much damage. Who knows????????
     
  4. recurvyarcher

    recurvyarcher Well-Known Member

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    I had a FEDEX store tell me that it would be over $50 to overnight a document to my office in NJ. I went to the FEDEX center, and it was less than $20.
     
  5. Recoil Sissy

    Recoil Sissy Well-Known Member

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    dolphin77 and all:

    I have the choice of shipping from a UPS affiliated store or a UPS terminal. Both are located about 10 minutes from my home.

    The store is family owned and run. The employees handling the UPS business are knowledgeable and helpful. I have shipped guns from my UPS store hassle free several times in the past. I now use the terminal. Here's why...

    The UPS store has extended and convenient hours six days a week. However, it's fees are in addition to the UPS charges so shipping from the store is SUBSTANTIALLY more expensive than shipping from the terminal.

    Terminal hours are limited for walk in traffic to 4:30pm - 6:30pm. However, it's a bunch less expensive. The last time I checked a specific package the cost difference was right at 1/3. After I learned how to ship from the terminal, I pretty much quit using the store. It's strictly a matter of economics.

    sissy
     
  6. Joe Potosky

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    Depending on the store, those working may have a broad interpretation of prohibited items (and not sure) and in some cases may not be correct...

    ITEMS PROHIBITED FOR SHIPPING AT THE UPS STORE

    Hazardous Materials

    Explosives

    Alcoholic Beverages

    Articles of Unusual Value

    Human Remains

    Firearms or Parts Of Firearms

    Dangerous Goods

    Live Animals

    Pornographic Material

    Plants

    Paint

    Bleach

    Dry Ice Weighing More Than 5 Pounds

    Household Cleaning Products

    Compressed Gasses

    Oxygen Tanks

    Radioactive Materials

    Poison Materials

    Corrosive Materials

    Toxic Materials
     
  7. recurvyarcher

    recurvyarcher Well-Known Member

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    Well, there you have it. I guess the only way that I can send that picture of Martin to Jerry Bryant is to hand-deliver it...
     
  8. Shooting Coach

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    I use what is convenient and economical for ME. Since I am a dealer, I use USPS flat rate for handguns. I use Fed Ex commercial going out, since I have an account with them, they discount packages, and UPS does not allow me in their building with my legal carry arm.

    When I walk in the Fed Ex terminal, I already have the shipping info ready, I hand it and the package to them, they have my CC on file, and I am done in a minute or two.

    Whatever a shipper uses to send me stuff does not matter.
     
  9. wolfram

    wolfram Well-Known Member

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    I just shipped a handgun out using UPS. No hassles on this end. Like other psoters have indicated, the various stores are privately owned and operated. The owner of the store I used had flyers in his front window for the upcoming gun show along with a notice of the local firearms club next meeting. I would guess he is 'one of us'. Sorry your experience with UPS was not as good.
     
  10. 391 shooter

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    My local UPS drop guy, private owned, has never had a problem sending anything gun or gun part related. I have had good service with them.

    However, UPS could have changed the rules in the last week or so and I not be aware of it.
     
  11. 391 shooter

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    I also have myy FFL guy I deal with who gets shotguns, rifles and pistols all the time delivered, to his location in Florida, via UPS with know problems.
     
  12. Joe Potosky

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    UPS and UPS stores are two different animals.

    Don't get them confused...
     
  13. Go Fish

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    I shipped my stock out for some work thru UPS and when I was asked want was in the box I told them a wood craving that I was having addition craving done to it. No gun stock, No problem. Told my buddy to tell FedEx the same thing when he shipped his stock, wood craving, again no problem.
     
  14. Rastoff

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    I thought hand guns had to be shipped by private carrier, and could not be shipped through the USPS. Am I misinformed about this?
     
  15. Joe Potosky

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    RE: hand guns

    Dealers can use the post office. Regular folks, No!
     
  16. Rastoff

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    Thanks Joe. I didn't know that!
     
  17. 3200REM

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    I've got a couple questions for you guys. I am going to be shipping a gun, and I was going to use the USPS, however I have never shipped one before and was wondering if it was legal to actually take it in to the office considering it's a federal building. I wouldn't think it would be that big of a deal considering it will be broken down and packaged in a box, but you can't be too careful these days with crazy anti-gun people that shutter at the word.

    Also, do I tell them whats in the package or not? Seems to me that the less they know the better off.

    Thanks,

    Dakota Bittner
     
  18. Joe Potosky

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    All I've used for the past several years is USPS.

    I assume it's going to be run over by a truck and package accordingly.

    I always tell them I'm shipping a shotgun and never a problem.

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    12.3 Rifles and Shotguns

    Although unloaded rifles and shotguns not precluded by 12.1.1e and 12.1.2 are mailable, mailers must comply with the Gun Control Act of 1968, Public Law 90-618, 18 USC 921, et seq., and the rules and regulations promulgated thereunder, 27 CFR 178, as well as state and local laws. The mailer may be required by the USPS to establish, by opening the parcel or by written certification, that the gun is unloaded and not precluded by 12.1.1e.

    12.4 Legal Opinions on Mailing Firearms

    Postmasters are not authorized to give opinions on the legality of any shipment of rifles or shotguns. Contact the nearest office of the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco and Firearms for further advice.

    12.7 Prohibited Parcel Marking

    For any parcel containing a firearm or a ballistic or switchblade knife, any marking that indicates the contents is not permitted on the outside wrapper or container.
     
  19. Rastoff

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    First, is it a long gun (shotgun or rifle)? If it is, you can ship it through the USPS.

    No, you don't have to tell them what's inside. They will ask you, "Is there anything liquid, hazardous or fragile inside?" You will tell them no. They will ask if you want insurance. They will weigh the package, and ask how fast you want it to go. I recommend having it insured with delivery confirmation at the least. Registered mail is still the best way to ship, but it will cost you.

    Should the contents be revealed, they have the right to have you open the box so they can verify that the gun is broken down.
     
  20. claybrdr

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    Bottom line is that everyone has had good and bad experiences with the carriers and it depends in many cases on the locale and the individuals working the stores.

    I have a FedX account, a UPS account and an online USPS account. FedX is the best and most hassle free for me as i just drop the package off at a Kinkos/FedX store. Never asked any questions, greeted politely and thanked for my business...
    The UPS store is run by Pakistanis I think and they are a rip-off plus, they won't accept guns or stuff valued over a grand. The folks at the local UPS terminal are great.

    The Post Office is populated by lazy morons. 'Nuff said.
     
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