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Sub gauge powders

Discussion in 'Shooting Related Threads' started by Jacob Guthrie, Jul 8, 2012.

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  1. Jacob Guthrie

    Jacob Guthrie Member

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    Been thinking about starting to load some sub gauge loads, just curios for those that do what do you find is the best 20/28 GA and 410? I've loaded 700X for as long as I've shot but I obviously know it doesn't work for small gauge. Also has anyone used 700X in a .45 ACP load? Thanks Jake
     
  2. skeet_man

    skeet_man Well-Known Member

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    Universal Clays for 20&28, H110/296 for 410.
     
  3. short shucker

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    Universal or Unique for the 20/28. Universal is a little cleaner burning, but both are great powders. Never reloaded any 410 so I have no clue there.

    ss
     
  4. 22hornet

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    Unique! Every bench should have a jug.
     
  5. shrek

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    Alliants 20/28 is mighty fine for both the 20 and 28, I like it at least as good as Universal, if not better.

    don't know anything about reloading the 410
     
  6. halfmile

    halfmile Well-Known Member

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    Universal for 20/28, just right.I tried international in the 20 and it was too bulky.

    H110/296 are the old standbys for .410, don't need to re invent the wheel.

    HM
     
  7. johnboy

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    Alliant 410 for the 410, Universal for 20/28
     
  8. Spanky

    Spanky Active Member

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    I've been using Universal Clays and the Alliant 20/20 also. My results are the same. Equal to me. Alliant may be a bit cheaper in price.
     
  9. djldb6

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    20/28 for 20 ga with great results. Don't load 28.

    300MP for 410 has been working great. 1300 FPS with low pressures (for 410) and for whatever reason it doesn't burn through the sides of the AA hulls like lil gun and 410 did. I have been getting lots of reloads per hull before the tips get too unruly.

    Dan
     
  10. Pull & Mark

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    Jake, I like the same powders as Skeet_man!!! "But" Unique is a good powder for STS's, and 20/28 was really shines in the Win. HS hulls. Now go find the load that "You" like. break em all Jeff
     
  11. claybrdr

    claybrdr Well-Known Member

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    HS-6, Longshot or Alliant 20/28 in 28 ga

    296 or Alliant 410 in the 410

    Winchester WSF in 20 ga or Alliant 20/28

    Keep in mind that Winchester factory AA shells were at one time loaded as follows:

    20 ga: Winchester Super Field
    28 ga: WW540 (HS-6)
    410: 296

    That was good enough for me!
     
  12. Shooting Coach

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    WSF, Unique, 20/28, and Universal Clays can be used in both 20 and 28. Accurate 4100, Alliant 300 MP, or 296/H110 work well in the Wienie Gun.

    I prefer Unique in the 20/28. I load mainly Remmy and Fed hulls. In 20 ga AA hulls, I load 3/4 oz shot. 28 ga hulls are not discarded, regardless of brand. I do not leave Eurotrash hulls on the ground. In 28 ga AA hulls, I load 11/16 oz shot.

    I have had great luck with Accurate 4100 in the AA 410 hull. A large amount of H110 in Remmy, Fed, and Eurotrash hulls works well on our Sub Gauge Sporting course.

    I may try 20/28 in those gauges when I need powder again. Also, 300MP sounds interesting for the Idiot Stick (410).
     
  13. Shooting Jack

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    What's wrong with using Green Dot in 12, 20, and 28. I like 296 for 410. I used lil gun for years and realized that it burnt the hulls much faster, limiting the number of reloads per hull. Jackie B.
     
  14. benniesdad

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    I use mainly Universal for 7/8oz 20 and 28. Have used Unique in the past, but I got a good deal on Universal. I use International for 3/4 oz 20 ga which I have been shooting a lot lately. 296 is my choice for 410.
     
  15. skeet_man

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    Shooting Jack- Pressure is way too high in 20ga and 28ga for GD to be used in subgauge tubes.

    In fact Alliant only lists four 7/8oz 20ga loads (all in the Federal Top Gun/Gold Medal/Estate hull) and three 3/4oz 28ga loads anymore.
     
  16. Jacob Guthrie

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    Seeing a lot of Unique, 20/28, and 410. I may give a few a try and see what I like, thanks for everyone's input. Jake
     
  17. superxjeff

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    I like Unique in the 28 and 296 in the 410.Jeff
     
  18. over the hill

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    I get very consistent drops with 20/28 powder on my MEC 600.

    Pretty clean burning too.



    Regards....Gerald
     
  19. skeeljc

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    Hodgdon H110 for the .410 gauge - best hull life.

    IMR SR7625 for the 28 gauge - the softest shooting powder for the 28.

    Jim Skeel<BR>
    P/W Dealer/Distributor
     
  20. halfmile

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    Kolar had 20 gauge tubes cracking in the chamber area, I am not sure what the powder was but with tubes I would use Universal rather than International.

    I would never use GD in a tube gun for 20.

    HM
     
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