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stock removal

Discussion in 'Shooting Related Threads' started by melbournemike, Jan 31, 2010.

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  1. melbournemike

    melbournemike TS Member

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    I brought my BT99 to a local "gunsmith" to replace the springs,he couldnt remove the stock! is this common? and anyone have advice ?
     
  2. Unknown1

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    Specifically, what was the problem?

    MK
     
  3. Tron

    Tron Supporting Vendor Supporting Vendor

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    LOL....sorry, I can't help it. Did maybe someone inlet the stock and leave epoxy on bare receiver metal or something along those lines?
     
  4. melbournemike

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    I have had this gun since new its never been touched! the gunsmith couldnt break the bolt free he said he put a t handle on the socket and was afraid of damageing the stock!
     
  5. Tron

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    Whoa....don't know what to tell you. I mean, it has to come off. A large quality screwdriver should do the trick, wouldn't you think? I've never had a problem removing them with my Snap-On drivers. If the slot is starting to get boogered up, it will make it more of a headache.
     
  6. oletymer

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    Socket?? Both of my BT00s have a screwdriver slot on the stock bolt. Unless they changed the stock bolt that could be the problem. If it is just frozen you might spray some penetrating fluid on it.
     
  7. cubancigar2000

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    I use a small cooks torch to het the nut, Zingo it comes off easy
     
  8. Baron23

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    I would definitely try the Kriol penetrating oil route...leave on for a few days, doesn't take a lot.

    Also, if this was not tried by your gunsmith, and he just gave up, I would find another gunsmith.
     
  9. hmb

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    I had the same problem, this was my fix. Find a large screw driver that fits the slotted screw. The screw drivers shaft needs to have at least 4 flats on the length of the shaft. A long adjustable wrench, and a roll of masking tape.

    1. Wrap the shaft of the screw driver with masking tape near the slot end so it will be a slip fit in the stock hole. Also wrap the shaft where it exits the stock, a slip fit in the hole just like the front end. This will ensure that the screw driver stays in alignment with the screw slot.

    2. Secure the receiver in a vise.

    3. Put the screw driver in place and use the adjustable wrench to apply the added force you need to break the screw loose. Keep a forward pressure on the screw driver so it doesn't pop out of the slot. HMB
     
  10. melbournemike

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    Thanks guys I guess it's not that uncommon! But I'll just try another smith!
     
  11. Anchorsteam

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    I had the 'same problem' getting a stock nut off a Remington 1100 recently, but here's an easy way to do it: From Advance Auto get a set of the Irwin tools that are designed to remove stubborn nuts & bolts. Select the proper size to remove your stuck nut. In my case I had to have a machinist remove some tool material so the tool would fit in the stock bolt hole. You can see that the tool outside the box has a much thinner OD after the machinist took off the wrench flats and some of the cylinder section. The other end of the tools accomodates a 3/8" drive socket drive It was easy and you can re-use the nut.

    BTW: the Irwin case contains two separate 'kits' and sizes of removal tools. I also have a smaller set to fit screw heads. It's the second time these Irwin tools have literally saved the day for me.
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    With the correct sized screw driver blade in the bolt's slot, smack the end of the scrwe driver smartly with a small hammer.

    Maybe this will break the metal-to-metal adhesion between the bolt and the threaded end.

    DON'T BREAK THE STOCK. I've done that!

    Whiz
     
  14. Anchorsteam

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    ┬ČLOL - Irwin tool works without all that drama.
     
  15. Anchorsteam

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    BTW - I would be happy to Priority Mail my Irwin tool to anyone to borrow that needs it for a $20.00 Paypal deposit. I will send you your $20 bucks back when I get the tool back:^)
     
  16. stockguy

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    Not all Brownings use the screwdriver slot type of stock bolt. The Browning's with the current factory adjustable combs require a 5mm "Allen" wrench - just like Perazzi and K-guns. I use a 9" long T-handled Bondhus brand wrench available at a good tool supply store. I've never had that style stock bolt that I couldn't loosen with that wrench.

    Browning's slotted screwdriver stock bolts can give you fits if it's too tight. The head of the bolt is round so you can't use a socket wrench - you have to use some sort of large flat bladed screwdriver. There are some decent suggestions above for supporting that large screwdriver in the center of the stock bolt hole. I have my 'mega' browning screwdriver (S-K brand # 72130) with about a 10" long blade. I've tweaked the end of the screwdriver to fit the Browning slotted head rather tightly. The screwdriver has a 3/8" square shank and I've had to use a 10" Crescent wrench on that square shank for torque while putting all of my weight down on the screwdriver handle many times with the receiver - not the stock - in a leather padded vise. You've got to be very carefull that the blade stays in the center of the bolt head - maybe with some of the suggestions given in some of the prior posts. If you allow the blade to migrate to the side and contact the wood - or even worse, think you are in the slot and you're actually along side the head of the bolt - you can easily crack and ruin your stock.

    If the bolt head and slot is buggered up so badly that the screwdriver won't stay in the slot you may have to have the head of the bolt ground or machined off. Then you can simply pull the stock off but you'll have to replace the stock bolt.

    I'm not in favor of using Loctite on stock bolts. I prefer to let lock washers (or spring washers in the case of K-guns) do their job.

    If your stock bolt is stuck and you're not sure you can handle the job yourself, take it to a competent gunsmith. It may cost you a few bucks but may save your stock from damage.

    Best of luck. Greg Hissem
     
  17. Anchorsteam

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    Use this tool to easily remove a stuck allen or phillips or smaller bolt head fastener that is stuck down inside the tock bolt hole. I pulled one out so you can see the 'business-end'. They work in any 1/4" drive socket or drive handle. They are cheap from Advance Auto Store or any place that sells Irwin. I think Sears sells them too. I am not affiliated with any of the entities mentioned!!! This tool kit saved my a&& when trying to remove the phillips-head distributor hold-down bolts in one of my Porsche 993's. I can't say enough about these simple, yet effective tools. Gladly let you borrow any of these....


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  18. Unknown1

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    <I>"Browning's slotted screwdriver stock bolts can give you fits if it's too tight. The head of the bolt is round so you can't use a socket wrench - you have to use some sort of large flat bladed screwdriver."</I>

    stockguy,

    All of my XTs (4, bought new, 1991 thru 2006) have slotted hex head bolts holding the stock to the receiver and all of them are factory parts. The '91 has a waisted bolt as well.

    MK
     
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