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Stimulus Plan" low down Senate floor the EARMARKS

Discussion in 'Politics, Elections & Legislation' started by OLD ONE EYE, Apr 3, 2009.

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    OLD ONE EYE Well-Known Member

    Jan 29, 1998
    Florida / Idaho
    Here we go EARMARKS this is out of control Americans need to be more aware and active on these issues and let government know we are not going to stand for this irresponsibility.

    [Senator Coburn recently gave this speech on the floor of the Senate]

    We are going in exactly the wrong direction. We ought to be standing on the
    principles that made this country great.

    There ought to be a review of every program in the Federal Government that
    is not effective, that is not efficient, that is wasteful or fraudulent, and
    we ought to get rid of it right now. We ought to say, Gone, to be able to
    pay for a real stimulus plan that might, in fact, have some impact.

    I would be remiss if I didn't remind everybody that next week we are going
    to hear from the Obama administration wanting another $500 billion. Outside
    of this ["stimulus" bill], they are going to want another $500 billion to
    handle the banking system.

    I want to make sure the American people know what is in this Stimulus bill.
    I think once they know what is in this bill, they are going to reject it out
    of hand. Let me read for my colleagues some of the things that are in this

    The biggest earmark in history is in this bill. There is $2 billion in this
    bill to build a coal plant with zero emissions. That would be great, maybe,
    if we had the technology, but the greatest brains in the world sitting at
    MIT say we don't have the technology yet to do that.

    Why would we build a $2 billion powerplant we don't have the technology for
    that we know will come back and ask for another $2 billion and another $2
    billion and another $2 billion when we could build a demonstration project
    that might cost $150 million or $200 million? There is nothing wrong with
    having coal-fired plants that don't produce pollution; I am not against
    that. Even the Washington Post said the technology isn't there. It is a
    boondoggle. Why would we do that?

    We eliminated tonight a $246 million payback for the large movie studios in

    We are going to spend $88 million to study whether we ought to buy a new ice
    breaker for the Coast Guard. You know what. The Coast Guard needs a new ice
    breaker. Why do we need to spend $88 million? They have two ice breakers now
    that they could retrofit and fix and come up with equivalent to what they
    needed to and not spend the $1 billion they are going to come back and ask
    for, for another ice breaker, so why would we spend $88 million doing that?

    We are going to spend $448 million to build the Department of Homeland
    Security a new building. We have $1.3 trillion worth of empty buildings
    right now, and because it has been blocked in Congress we can't sell them,
    we can't raze them, we can't do anything, but we are going to spend money on
    a new building here in Washington.

    We are going to spend another $248 million for new furniture for that
    building; a quarter of a billion dollars for new furniture. What about the
    furniture the Department of Homeland Security has now? These are tough
    times. Should we be buying new furniture? How about using what we have? That
    is what a family would do. They would use what they have. They wouldn't go
    out and spend $248 million on furniture.

    How about buying $600 million worth of hybrid vehicles? Do you know what I
    would say? Right now times are tough; I would rather Americans have new cars
    than Federal employees have new cars. What is wrong with the cars we have?
    Dumping $600 million worth of used vehicles on the used vehicle market right
    now is one of the worst things we could do. Instead, we are going to spend
    $600 million buying new cars for Federal employees.

    There is $400 million in here to prevent STDs. I have a lot of experience on
    that. I have delivered 4,000 babies. We don't need to spend $400 million on
    STDs. What we need to do is properly educate about the infection rates and
    the effectiveness of methods of prevention. That doesn't take a penny more.
    You can write that on one piece of paper and teach every kid in this
    country, but we don't need to spend $400 million on it. It is not a

    How about $150 million for a Smithsonian museum? Tell me how that helps get
    us out of a recession. Tell me how that is a priority. Would the average
    American think that is a priority that we ought to be mortgaging our kids'
    future to spend another $150 million at the Smithsonian?

    How about $1 billion for the 2010 census? So everybody knows, the census is
    so poorly managed that the census in 2010 is going to cost twice what it
    cost 10 years ago, and we wasted $800 million on a contract because it was
    no-bid that didn't perform. Nobody got fired, no competitive bidding, and we
    blew $800 million.

    We have $75 million for smoking cessation activities, which probably is a
    great idea, but we just passed a bill, the SCHIP bill, that we need to get
    21 million more Americans smoking to be able to pay for that bill. That
    doesn't make sense.

    How about $200 million for public computer centers at community colleges? I
    mean, did we talk with Dell and Hewlett-Packard and say, How do we make you
    all do better? Is there not a market force that could make that better? Will
    we actually buy on a true competitive bid?

    No, because there is nothing that requires competitive bidding in anything
    in this bill. There is nothing that requires it. It is one of the things
    President Obama said he was going to mandate at the Federal Government, but
    there is no competitive bidding in this bill at all.

    We have $10 million to inspect canals in urban areas. Well, that will put
    10 or 15 people to work. Is that a priority for us right now?

    There is $6 billion to turn Federal buildings into green buildings. That is
    a priority, versus somebody getting a job outside of Washington, a job that
    actually produces something, that actually increases wealth?

    How about $500 million for State and local fire stations? Where do you find
    in the Constitution us paying for local fire stations within our realm of
    prerogatives? None of it is competitively bid.

    Next is $1.2 billion for youth activities. Who does that employ? What does
    that mean?

    How about $88 million for renovating the public health service building? You
    know, if we could sell half of the $1.3 trillion worth of properties we
    have, we could take care of every Federal building requirement and backlog
    we have.

    Then there's $412 million for CDC [Centers for disease Control] buildings
    and property. We spent billions on a new center and headquarters for CDC. Is
    that a priority? If we are going to spend $412 million on building
    buildings, let's build one that will produce something, one that will give
    us something.

    How about $850 million for that most "efficient" Amtrak that hasn't made any
    money since 1976 and continues to have $2 billion or $3 billion a year in

    Here is one of my favorites: $75 million to construct a new "security
    training" facility for State Department security officers. We already have
    four other facilities already available to train them. But they want theirs.
    By the way, it is going to be in West Virginia. I wonder how that got there.

    So we are going to build a new training facility that duplicates four others
    that we already have that could easily do what we need to do. But because we
    have a stimulus package, we are going to add in oink pork.

    How about $200 million in funding for a lease - not buying, but a lease - of
    alternative energy vehicles on military installations?

    We are going to bail out the States on Medicaid. Total all of the health
    programs in this, and we are going to transfer $150 billion out of the
    private sector and we are going to move it to the Federal Government. You
    talk about backdooring national health care.

    Henry Waxman has to be smiling big today. He wants a single-payer
    Government-run health care system. We are going to move another $150 billion
    to the Federal Government from the private sector.

    We are going to eliminate fees on loans from the Small Business
    Administration. You know what that does? That pushes productive capital to
    unproductive projects. It is exactly the wrong thing to do.

    We are going to spend $524 million for information technology upgrades that
    the Appropriations Committee claims will create 388 jobs. If you do the math
    on that, that is $1.5 million a job. Don't you love the efficiency of
    Washington thinking?

    We are going to create $79 billion in additional money for the States, a
    "slush fund," to bail out States and provide millions of dollars for
    education costs. How many of you think that will ever go away?

    Once the State education programs get $79 billion over 2 years, do you think
    that will ever go away? The cry and hue of taking "our money" away, even
    though it was a stimulus and supposed to be limited, it will never go away.
    So we will continue putting that forward until our kids have grandkids of
    their own.

    There is about $47 billion for a variety of energy programs that are
    primarily focused on renewable energy. I am fine with spending that. But we
    ought to get something for it. There ought to be metrics. There are no
    metrics. It is pie in the sky, saying we will throw some money at it.

    Let me conclude by saying we are at a seminal moment in our country. We will
    either start living within the confines of realism and responsibility or we
    will blow it and we will create the downfall of the greatest nation that
    ever lived.

    This bill is the start of that downfall. To abandon a market-oriented
    society and transfer it to a Soviet-style, government-centered,
    bureaucratic-run and mandated program, that is the thing that will put the
    stake in the heart of freedom in this country.

    I hope the American people know what is in this bill. I am doing everything
    I can to make sure they know. But more important, I hope somebody is
    listening who will treat the "pneumonia" we are faced with today, which is
    the housing and mortgage markets. It doesn't matter how much money we spend
    in this bill. It is doomed to failure unless we fix that problem first.

    Failing that, we will go down in history as the Congress that undermined the
    future and vitality of this country. Let it not be so.
  2. BT-100dc

    BT-100dc Active Member

    Nov 7, 2008
    Stimulus Plan

    You've noticed that the House, Senate & White House refuses to allow people to keep their own money? They don't want power (money is power) left with the people. What they're not telling you, is you, your kids plus your grandchildren will ultimately pay. In addition, anyone out there remember a thing called inflation? Being on a fixed pension myself, I'm afraid that inflation will re-visit us in such a manner that we can't keep up. The Cap & Trade schemes will add 30-40% to our electric bill and result in a further loss of all types of businesses. All of these trillions are bad idea (legalized theft) and these people who vote for these massive budgets should be voted out, whether Republican or Democrats. One thing for certain you will be taxed in insidious ways to pay for this madness. Support tea parties. BT-100dc
  3. halfmile

    halfmile Well-Known Member

    Jan 29, 1998
    Green Bay Wisconsin
    Stimulus Plan

    There goes the "no earmarks" promise from the 2 faced mulatto.

    This has all gotten way out of hand. So much is done behind the people's back it's pitiful. I would bet one of my guns that 75% of the population, probably more, know absolutely zilch about this.

    They have had a century to perfect their fraudulent way of governing.

    And I'm damn sick and tired of it.

  4. J.Woolsey

    J.Woolsey Member

    Aug 12, 2007
    Stimulus Plan

    Likes to shoot. Do you understand that it makes no difference? Ossama promised to end earmarks (PORK). He lied, seems to be the norm for "The Mulatto Muslim." And in case you don't understand, he has the power of the pen (veto) to do what he lied about. JW
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