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Still think made in China is OK

Discussion in 'Uncategorized Threads' started by JLW, Jun 27, 2007.

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  1. JLW

    JLW TS Member

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    So, when will China import to the US the first trap gun, shells, targets, lead or powder?

    And, how fast will we gobble them up?-Jerald
     
  2. stokinpls

    stokinpls Well-Known Member

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    Here's another.

    NEW YORK (Reuters) - A New Jersey importer has asked the U.S. National Highway Traffic Safety Administration for help in recalling about 450,000 light-truck tires made in China after a fatal car accident, lawyers said.

    The tires, made by Hangzhou Zhongce Rubber Co., have an insufficient or missing gum strip, a safety feature that helps prevent them from separating, the lawyers and a consumers' group said in a statement. The group, Safety Research & Strategies, is urging retailers and wholesalers to stop selling the tires.

    The New Jersey importer, Foreign Tire Sales, has told U.S. safety officials the tires were sold under the names Westlake, Telluride Compass and YKS, according to lawyers representing families of people involved in the fatal car accident blamed on the tires.

    U.S. traffic safety officials were not immediately available for comment; nor was Foreign Tire Sales in Union, New Jersey.

    According to The New York Times, the NHTSA wants a full tire recall by Foreign Tire Sales and considers the recall to be the company's ultimate responsibility. Hangzhou Zhongce sold tires to at least six other U.S. distributors, according to the Times.

    Foreign Tire Sales last month filed a breach of contract suit against Hangzhou, court documents show.

    Xu Youming, head of Hangzhou's legal department, confirmed FTS had sued his company in the United States, but declined to elaborate on the suit, which he said was different from the fatal-accident suit mentioned by The New York Times. He said the latter suit involved several companies including General Motors Corp.

    GM officials were not immediately available to comment.

    Hangzhou Zhongce Rubber Co. has a dispute with FTS over a previously signed contract, but the Chinese company's products have no quality problem, he said. "FTS is only one of our distributors in America," he said. "If our products have a quality problem, how come the other distributors haven't sued us?"

    Xu said his company planned to release a written statement on Wednesday, and was considering launching a countersuit against FTS in China. He declined to comment further.
     
  3. W.P.T.

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    Yep, only in China ... If you knew what you was eating half the time you wouldn't eat it and thats from right here from the Good Ol USA ... WPT ... (YAC) ...
     
  4. revsublime

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    and you thought that the toothpaste from Wal-Mart was such a bargain. Mmm...glycol.
     
  5. berettaman7

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    China is our main enemy and we are guilty for buying the crap they make financed by our own corporations.

    Are we still able to buy american made products?

    Berettaman7
     
  6. grammie

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    The russians knew,,,and one of their leaders made a very prophetic statement about it a long time ago,,,,,and the Chinese have learned what the russians already knew!!! And as the say-----"We shall sell then the rope to hang themselves"!!!!!!!!!!!

    AKA Grammie...........
     
  7. Ted N.

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    And according to my doctor, about 99% of the vitamin C is made in China. Now how healthy do we feel?

    Ted N
     
  8. stokinpls

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    This is kinda funny, if you have about 10 minutes.
     
  9. flyfishinfool

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    Wireguy - you are 100% right on target

    My only complaint is that China has taken my son away from me and we can't go fishing together as often as we used to. He is a mechanical engineer over there working for an American company and his Chinese girlfriend has her masters in International Economics and also works for an American company.

    I wished he (and her) would come back to the good ol USA and STAY. I miss him.

    Dan
     
  10. smartass

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    Once has to wonder why a pinko like revslime doesn't like his pals in red China.
     
  11. jnoemanh

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    Wireguy -


    That's the small part of the problem. The big part is duty-free status for Chinese goods which are produced by $.50 labor. I know. In the 70s I was part of a team which moved 22,000 jobs from the USA to Taiwan. It wasn't regulations, it was $8 wages versus $.30 labor. The math is simple - save $7.70/hr X 22,000 X 40 hours = $6,776,000 per week savings. Regulations didn't cost the company that much in a year.
     
  12. flyfishinfool

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    Devil'sAdvocate. The latter.

    But a cute little Chinese girl put an awful curse on him. So he is staying longer than I like. He plans to work there for a couple of years, pass the Chinese Language Profeciency Test (level 6) and then enroll in Jio Tong University to get his masters in mechanical engineering over there. And it will be taught in Chinese ! Unbelievable.

    I once asked him what it was about Chinese women that he liked so much. After a long pause he said "Dad, if I told you, you'd have to have one"

    Wished I hadn't asked

    Dan
     
  13. tgun90

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    Whats the use, most everyone on these threads will shop Wallymart before the months up.
     
  14. revsublime

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    Heck...with the trade deficit we have with China..they wont have to invade...just call in our loans. Yes, China is the number one country we owe money to. And I still think Bush was an idiot for sending a guy from Goldman-Sachs to Beijing to negotiate the level of the Yen.
     
  15. revsublime

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    And the last few administrations that have made it easy for Corporations to use off-shore tax shelters. YEs...both liberal AND conservative administrations have provided corporations with the means to rape us of even more money.

    I guess people forgot the morass we got into when Corporations ran wild in the early part of the last century. Well...we're on our way to witness it first hand.
     
  16. oldgahchamp

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    A recent news article told of the lead and lead-based paint in kids toys. Walmart, Kmart, Sears, Fisher Price, Toys R Us, etc, etc are all guilty of poisoning our children and they probably will not stop. Call your US Senators and Congressmen and scream at them. Tell them to put an end to this crap. Larry Evans
     
  17. BIGDON

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    revsub: Please quit making general liberal statements. What qualifies you to judge corp. and whether or not they are raping you. Take the corporations out of the business world and what do you have, socialism. Please state those corporations who are using "off shore" accounts to rape you. What's your source? Your answer is for the Govt. to own and run everything.

    I deal with many corporations daily and don't know of any using "off shore" accounts. But of course you are wiser, smarter and tuned in. I don't know what this site did for years with out your wisdom.

    By the way who put those reduced regs out there. I believe a man named Clinton kicked open the doors to China and Mexico.

    Don
     
  18. Dahaub

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    Those Chinese are flooding us with everything that can be made aren't they? I'm sure soon they will be sending us campers and cars and people at a rate that we can hardly deal with. I know that you can buy all sorts of goods even tractors that are made in China. There will be no end to it and one day if anything is made in America that will be unusual. There is no way any corporation can compete with the wages and lack of benefits the Chinese pay. I heard a couple years ago that the auto workers in China were getting $5o per month. That is less than our American workers get total benefit package per hour. There is no way ever that we can compete with that is there? Maybe there should be another agreement made on trade. What do you think? Dan
     
  19. revsublime

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    BigDon...read the article in url which talks about the Senate investigations of off-shore tax shelters.



    Over two dozen major U.S. corporations have reincorporated offshore, most in recent years.(7) Community, union and investor resistance to Connecticut toolmaker Stanley Works' well-publicized attempt to move offshore (the company announced it was dropping the proposal last August) may have slowed that trend.(8) But the message that these corporations and their accountants and consultants seem to be sending ordinary Americans is that "sacrifice is for suckers." Or as an Ernst & Young tax partner explained: "we are working through a lot of companies who feel that … just the improvement on earnings is powerful enough that maybe the patriotism issue needs to take a back seat." (9)

    Although no one knows for sure how much offshore tax avoidance is costing the country, Senator Max Baucus (D-MT), ranking member of the Senate Finance Committee estimates that the cost of tax avoiding by both individuals and corporations through the use of offshore tax shelters to be $70 billion a year - roughly the same amount that President Bush requested to pay for the first 6 months of the war and occupation of Iraq. (10)

    While U.S. companies say they are moving offshore in order to compete with foreign multinationals that do not have to pay a tax on income earned overseas, U.S. corporate taxes are actually much lower than those of other industrialized countries.

    Two congressional experts familiar with the corporate tax debate suggest that "the U.S. tax system, with its combination of deferral and a foreign tax credit, is probably more generous in most circumstances than the "territorial systems" used by other countries." (11) The data bear this out:

    * By 2000, U.S. federal and state corporate taxes had dropped to 2.5% of GDP from 4.1% in 1965, while corporate income taxes in other OECD countries had risen to 3.4% GDP. In 2002, U.S. corporate taxes plummeted to only 1.5% of GDP. (12)


    just some evidence for you BigDon. No i don't expect state run companies. I expect regulation. Regulation that was taken away by NAFTA & GAT which was signed by Clinton...but came about under the Bush I administration and is being perpetuated by the Bush II administration.
     
  20. BIGDON

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    I would certainly believe a Senate probe as being totally accurate. What they really need is to probe themselves, in more ways than one. 24 Corporations out of how many thousands but you paint them all as rapists. Why don't you let the Democrats tax them out of existance, put all their employees on welfare and you will have your little socialistic empire. But you better ask yourself the question if you have everyone on welfare, who pays the taxes to fund the welfare?? You can bet your sweet butt that all the Senators and Representatives will have their personal pile of $$ stashed and guess what that makes them, King. You and Lumper could rule.

    Don
     
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