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standardized industry wide .30 in AR platform

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  1. wireguy

    wireguy TS Member

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    From THE SHOOTING WIRE:

    October 26, 2011

    300 AAC Blackout Used in Win at MultiGun Nationals

    Staff Sargent Daniel Horner of the US Army's Marksmanship Unit used the new 300 AAC Blackout cartridge to win first overall in the Tactical Optics division of the 2011 USPSA MultiGun National Championship, held outside of Las Vegas, Nevada.

    300 AAC Blackout was launched by Advanced Armament Corp. and Remington primarily for the military as a way to shoot 30 caliber bullets from the M4/AR15 platform while using standard magazines, but is expected to see a lot of use for hunting, plinking, and home defense as well. The concept of putting a 30-caliber bullet in a shortened 223 case has been done before, but not as an industry-wide standard that anyone can make products for, royalty-free.

    SAAMI, the industry standards organization, adopted 300 BLK earlier this year, and it now has broad industry support- with over 60 companies making products for it. Remington is leading the pack with the most types and highest volume of ammo available - 125 grain open-tip match with a custom Sierra bullet, 220 grain subsonic, and 125 grain AccuTip for hunting, law enforcement, and self-defense.

    While this is one of the lowest-cost cartridges to reload for - Remington and AAC recognized that most people are not reloaders - so UMC ammo is planned to be out soon with a price of just $12.99 MSRP per box - substantially less than other cartridges that are a power upgrade from 223. And the use of the cartridge to win the Nationals while qualifying for "Major Power Factor" leaves no doubt about the potential for accuracy and the capability of some major punch.

    Robert Silvers, AAC's Director of Research and Development - and project lead for the platform, explained "People want to hunt with their AR, and 223 may not be legal in their state or they just may not like varmint-sized bullets - now there is a way to shoot 30 caliber from your AR while still using normal magazines with full capacity. Even the bolt stays the same, and all that changes is the barrel."

    Expect to hear a lot more about this cartridge as many more companies announce products at the 2012 Shot Show and throughout next year. For more information visit www.300aacblackout.com.
    Contact:
    Aaron L. Hampton, SFC
    PLT SGT, US Army Action Shooting Team
    Phone: (877) 837-7922
    Aaron.Hampton@usaac.army.mil

    Robert Silvers, Director, Research and Development.
    Advanced Armament Corp.
    Phone: (78) 319-0541
     
  2. shannon391

    shannon391 Active Member

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    Sounds good! Kind of 30/30 ish?
     
  3. chipking

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    Think 7.62X39 with a case that does not need the huge curve in the magazine that the AK round does in order to stack and feed correctly. Should be a pretty good round. Lets see how long it takes for ammo, barrels and/or uppers to a hit the general market.

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  4. slic lee

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    All that for the uglyist rifle in the world. UG ! Lee
    I wonder about the ballistics, that could mean the difference between one hit or three.
     
  5. shannon391

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    Show the pretty gun to friends, the ugly black gun to enemies.
     
  6. grntitan

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    slic,

    You really need to go back to school and learn proper punctuation. Heck, even grade school level punctuation would be a step up. It is very difficult to comprehend any of your run-on posts.
     
  7. slic lee

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    Grnee,blame it on texting. I sometimes forget,I will do better. Lee
     
  8. short shucker

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    I've been studying the .30 AR round from Remington. It's based off of the .450 Bushmaster case. How does this round differ from the 300 AAC?

    ss
     
  9. chipking

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    short shucker the 300 AAC is based on the 5.56 round so no modifications to magazines or bolts are required to use it in the AR platform. Not so the .30 AR which requires mods to both the bolt face and magazine because of the fatter .450 Bushmaster case it is based on.

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  10. grntitan

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    Chip,

    So are you saying the 300 ACC round will function in the conventional 5.56/.223 magazines? Basically all that would need changing would be the barrel? Just curious.

    Thanks

    Matt
     
  11. chipking

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    Matt I don't own one YET but That is my understanding yes. Mag capacity and feed lips remain un-touched, bolt face remains untouched. I do not know if the gas tube requires any tweaking (in volume) for the new cartridge but I doubt it so just change the barrel should be the only thing required. There is a fair amount of good reading on the cartridge out there written by folks who DO own one.

    From the Wikipedia article on the 300 AAC

    "By keeping the M4 in mind as the primary host during load development the designers were able to work up a host of cartridges that would satisfy not only the ballistic requirements set forth but also ensure mechanical reliability with the fewest changes to the weapon itself with only a simple barrel change being necessary for a complete conversion."

    --- Chip King ---
     
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