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stainless model 12

Discussion in 'Shooting Related Threads' started by smifshot, Feb 23, 2010.

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  1. smifshot

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    saw a new (to me) gun recently. Its a model 12 winchester 20 guage with a stainless steel barrel. Not nickel but stainless. The owner said when he bought the gun the barrel was painted plack. He removed the paint because it was flaking and has polished the barrel. On looking closer, the barrel was marked cylinder, had target sights and the black inlays on the stock. Haad never seen one of these and was wondering is you have. The gun looks in good shape. Stroker
     
  2. shootman

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    A couple of years ago Shotgun Sports mag. had an article on model twelves and there were all sorts of different versions. I am 57 and I never heard of some of them. They made some with cutts comps., some with polymer stocks and forearms, guns with 2 1/2, 2 9/16, 2 3/4, and 3 inch chambers. It is a good article. BOB
     
  3. acorange

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    Most stainless barreled M-12's were made during the 20's.
    I believe they were discontinued because of the fact that the finish would always come off.
    I have seen several 12 ga. stainless barrels but no 20's.
    Also your description makes it sound like it maybe a black diamond grade.
    In a 20 with a stainless barrel that would have to be a VERY rare bird.
     
  4. eightbore

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    Removing that paint and polishing the barrel only took about a thousand or two off the value of that gun.
     
  5. dshot

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    I beleave, Herb Parks shot a s/s model 12 back in the early 60's
     
  6. g7777777

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    They arent that rare- and while there is some slight collectors value its not a huge amount-

    Having said that- I have never seen a 20 gauge and from the stock it is either a special order or aftermarket stuff on the gun-

    regards from Iowa

    Gene
     
  7. whosyourdaddy

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    I have 3 stainless Model 12's in 12ga. They are the only 3 that I have ever seen for sale in over 30 years of collecting. I looked at a 20ga once that was marked stainless, but the barrel was blued, not painted. Probably a factory mistake, and probably a rare gun, but $2500 was more than I was willing to gamble. Crazy as it may sound, I tend to agree with alot of Gene's opinions, but I gotta call BS on this one, I think stainless Model 12's are pretty rare. Not super valuable, but rare.
     
  8. sx1skeet

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    Stainless model 12 are rare. They did make some in 20ga and 16 most were 12ga. They also did some 61's in stainless.
     
  9. smifshot

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    if you want to know what it is worth. Please post a few pics as the polished barrel does hurt it.
     
  11. Brian in Oregon

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    Winchester also had stainless rifle barrels, and the painting process was called "Japanning" or "Japan Black". This was because conventional blueing would not work.

    Pity the guy stripped the original finish and polished the barrel. It's now a shooter grade, not a collector grade.

    Ignorant is as ignorant does.
     
  12. jdsfarms

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    Can of Krylon and she'll be valuable as ever. :eek:p Jerry
     
  13. Brian in Oregon

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    I wouldn't put it past someone at a gun show to do just that.
     
  14. Chugiakshooter

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    How about a model 11 winchester semi auto make in 1913
     
  15. whosyourdaddy

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    I would be extremely skeptical of any stainless Winchester gun with a nice finish on the barrel. With todays technology, I bet there is a process to blacken stainless. Forgot to mention in my previous post that I also have a stainless 97 in 16ga. Also wanted to correct myself from my previous post. The stainless guns I own are the only ones I have ever seen for sale in person. I have seen a few online.
     
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    Winchester offered the Model 12 Heavy Duck Gun in Special Steel, or Stainless barrels from 1935 to 1948, 12 gauge only, 30 or 32 inch. I'd like to see a pic of that 20 ga. Wayne
     
  17. Sigraph

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    Joe Hollingsworth used to shoot at our club - I remember him talking about a stainless model 12 that he had just purchased at a sale. He may have sold the gun to someone on here. He built some of the most beautiful model 12's I've ever seen.
     
  18. g7777777

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    who is your daddy had a good point on the term rare-- thats a relative term

    I think he is correct though

    I meant rare enough that the guns would be worth 10,000 or multiples of 10,000 each or that I had never seen one or only one in a museum-- etc

    In fact I have probably seen 50 just at gun shows or gun shops- and I havent been looking for them

    regards from Iowa

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  19. bobcatv

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    I have one. It's in 12 Ga.

    You don't see many of them around.

    Jeff
     
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