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Sparta Lease Renewal Survey

Discussion in 'Shooting Related Threads' started by hunter44, Aug 19, 2010.

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  1. hunter44

    hunter44 Well-Known Member

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    Why? NO. They need to get the extension signed to make the new lease 15 years as soon as possible.
     
  2. slugbug1

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    Isn't that like 15 years from now? GaryL.
     
  3. Singleshot

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    Good God, no.....

    We've already got the finest shooting facility in the world. Lock it down for a ten year extension as soon as possible.

    I trust the ATA board to look out for our best interests, and I'm sure they'll do the right thing.
     
  4. royboy

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    The WEATHER is GREAT in Sparta, why would you move ????
     
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    Leave the Grand where it belongs at the WSRC in Sparta and the CC for that other shoot after the GRAND. Maybe most should decide after they visit the largest trap shooting facility in the world in Sparta, IL.---Matt
     
  7. colonel klink

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    Good Lord does this crap ever end. Give it up already (Ohio) you have lost the Grand & I doubt it is ever coming back. If you truly care about trap shooting it is time to step up & support the Sparta facility just like everybody did when it was in Vandalia. By all means, also support the Cardinal Center & your local clubs also but most of all ------enjoy the sport no matter where you are. (while we still have it!!!) Colonel
     
  8. Don S

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    It would seem to make sense to hold off on a renewal and allow bidding as was done before. Since we now have 3 venues that could possibly bid (WSRC, Cardinal Center & Las Vegas)we would be in a position for better terms. If there are no bids, Sparta would get the Grand by default again.
     
  9. halfmile

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    I'm with klink.

    HM
     
  10. The Stive

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    I live in Ohio and feel fortunate that we have a first class facility at the
    Cardinal Center. Leave the Grand in Sparta, another first class facility. The
    Grand has a home. I say leave it alone. In answer to the question, Yes!!
    John
     
  11. JTEA

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    If the same, or better terms were offered.... YES

    Those who think it's just an Ohio thing are missing the point that many shooters quit attending due to the heat. You should read more threads. As the economy "progresses" the number of Grand participants will skew even more towards the retired. Shoot where it's hotter - Good Idea!

    While you're at it, what exactly are the costs vs. income for the "Grand". Are all of us not attending paying for the party, or is it self sustaining. ie. Would you still shoot the Grand if the prices were, say, doubled? (At least until the debt is paid down)
    Are these numbers available, or is this part of what's being concealed?

    JT
     
  12. The Stive

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    What I meant in my answer was, yes renew the lease, John
     
  13. Neil Winston

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    I'm very happy with the WSRC at Sparta and I think that the ATA owes a lot to the people of Illinois for putting their trust in us. As the director of the complex explained to the BOD at the annual meeting, both the State of Illinois and investors such as prospective hotel builders need an assured - and extended - agreement in order to justify added support.

    An example of what we might get is a golf-cart bridge over Cardinal Road, which would certainly keep my own heart-rate down as I try to cross that thoroughfare in a machine that often seems to slow, not accelerate, as I hit the gas.

    It's the best trapshooting facility in the world. Why would I want to move?

    Neil
     
  14. Neil Winston

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    Jt, the Grand about breaks even and the debt that concerns you does not exist.

    Neil
     
  15. Ron Burdick

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    Leave the Grand in Sparta. Why would you want to let the good-ole-boy system mess up the Cardinal Center?

    Ron Burdick
     
  16. BigM-Perazzi

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    Why move from the greatest trapshooting facility in the world?

    Leave in Sparta. And yes I've veen there 3 of the 5 years.

    Jim C

    Hell, Michigan
     
  17. porky

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    The ATA will be broke in 5 years and the trap machines will need a major overhaul. I don't worry about the lease. How do you say pull in Chinese.
     
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    Sparta is the finest trap shooting venue in the world.
    NO
     
  20. old tex

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    Leave it in Sparta!!
     
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