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Son is moving before he sees the target

Discussion in 'Shooting Related Threads' started by poppat, May 6, 2013.

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  1. poppat

    poppat Member

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    My son has been shooting some really good scores and all of a sudden he has dropped from high twentys to high teens. I started watching him close and he is moving to the target before he can even see it any ideas on how to break this habit?

    Terry
     
  2. rhymeswithorange

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    have him close eyes, then call for the bird
     
  3. Scott Johnson

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    Do gun mounts at home (empty gun), and every time he mounts the gun, call for the bird like he normally does, and make sure that gun holds still. Do it every day to become habit. This advice is from the very helpful Mr. Bud Bartholow and we all know how good the Bartholows shoot.
    Another thing that may also help, quit watching squad mates birds, he may be anticipating where the bird is coming from, quit watching and guessing the machine. Just look off to the side until the guy before you shoots and then you are ready to go. YMMV. Scott
     
  4. wolfram

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    If your range will allow it, get the scorer's control for the voice release system and switch it off every now and then before your son calls for the bird. This will make him look for a target coming out of the house. Do this for a couple practice rounds and then come back in a week or so and repeat. Doesn't take long to make this bad habit go away.
     
  5. Oregunner

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    Don't let him shoot off the speakers. Use the button to hand pull targets. Don't let him call, but throw them randomly. He can't move until he sees them. Mark
     
  6. ejmarler

    ejmarler TS Member

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    What was very helpful to me was having someone release the birds instead of using the voice control. The puller would vary the time between when I called and when he released the bird. I quickly noticed that I was anticipating and learned to wait for the bird.
     
  7. likes-to-shoot

    likes-to-shoot Well-Known Member

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    not watching squadmates birds might help but it could be cheating a squadmate out of a bird or two in a registered shoot.
     
  8. dhwbailey

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    Slow pull him a few times. That will break that habit.
     
  9. Joe Potosky

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    As said above. Don't give him a bird a few times. See it done in skeet practice all the time.
     
  10. yvonne

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    I used to look at the ground and sing a song to myself until I heard my mate to the left call for the bird. I found I was trying to read the trap machine and would get surprised sometimes. A broken bird would come out and I was already tracking the pieces. Looking at the ground, singing in my head broke that habit.
     
  11. trapwife

    trapwife Well-Known Member Supporting Vendor

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    Leo advises that every shooter should watch every bird....it's like getting free practice targets if you think about how you would have shot that particular target. It also helps you to practice picking the bird up as close as possible to the house.
    He does a drill during clinics where no one calls for a target. When the shooters looks ready, a target is thrown.
     
  12. Hap MecTweaks

    Hap MecTweaks Well-Known Member

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    Karla, I'd venture a guess that Leo gets a big giggle outa some of the responses posted here on TS?

    Even the voice calls vary somewhat from club to club, bad habit to get into jumping the gun in anticipation of the clays angle!!

    It should be mandatory that every shooter watch EVERY target thrown for several reasons, not just the two mentioned above!!

    Hap
     
  13. CharlieAMA

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    Britt Robinson taught me to use a hand pull on kids. When they yell pull, slow pull them, or don't pull at all. It takes about 5-6 targets to get this across. I used this when I was coaching 4-H kids and SCTP kids. It works. Give it time. Charlie
     
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    oregunner is so right ,i had to do the same thing, pull targets by hand and i still try it every now and then . big differance for me. Brad
     
  15. poppat

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    anymore
     
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    A Britt Robinson clinic will cure that...and boost his average too...

    Ron Burr
     
  17. Bernie K

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    Number 10 paper plates and stick them on the wall in a random pattern. Have him mount the gun at what would be house top level and call out a number. He will have to look for that number before he moves the gun. You can record random numbers on ipod so he can practice alone.
     
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    So, in a 100 bird race I should watch 500 targets and not be concerned about eye fatigue or brain fade? And I should also do this to help my competitors score as many X's as I do?

    I'll have to think about that. OK, I thought about it.
     
  19. ChetH

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    Hi,

    Has he changed his hold point? I find that I I am too high I will start to hunt for the target.

    chet
     
  20. Bob Schultz

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    The wonderful gentleman who coached me a lot when I was learning to shoot, (Before voice releases.), would stand next to me holding the button in one hand and a stick in the other. If I called for a target and he did not press the button....if my gun so much as twitched ...HE HIT ME ACROSS THE BACK OF THE LEGS WITH THE STICK! 40 years later my gun still won't move until I see the target. Now I am not endorsing this method...but it does work!

    Bob Schultz
     
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