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Discussion in 'Politics, Elections & Legislation' started by 635 G, Sep 22, 2009.

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  1. 635 G

    635 G Well-Known Member

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    Can't make up his mind on what to do in Afganistan !!! Win or get out !!! LBJ made the same mistake in Nam. He thinks he is smarter than the General he picked. Pray for our troops in. Afganistan, this way they'll get more help than they'll get from Obama.

    Phil Berkowitz
     
  2. TOOLMAKER 251

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    It has been leaked to the press that general McCrystal will resign if he does not get the needed troups that was requested.
     
  3. birdogs

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    While he diddles, our troopps are in harm's way. A number of them will die un-necessarily because of this. If you are not prepared to fight to win, get out! The next President, hopefully a legal and competent one will pick up the pieces in 2012.
     
  4. JOND

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    I guess he thinks he can "smile" our enemies to death! JOND
     
  5. stokinpls

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    I thought, according to Him, that "The tolley-bohn are in pockey-stahn."?

    Maybe he should ask Kerry what his secret plan was to end this.
     
  6. NintyT

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    BTW, What happened to all the war protests/protesters that were so loud during the presidential campaign?
     
  7. dverna

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    With only 50% of the public supporting the war, he cannot use polls to make the decision.

    I feel for our soldiers. Think of the impact on morale.

    Don Verna
     
  8. W.P.T.

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    Didn't Obama say he was going to talk to all of them and smooth things over so he could put an end to the war ..? Gee, I wonder what happened to that idea ..? Must be Obama didn't know what he was talking about and more empty political promises ... WPT ... (YAC) ...
     
  9. gdbabin

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    NintyT--Different war.


    It seems most feel better about being in Afghanistan fighting terrorist rather than being in Iraq looking for non-existent WMD.


    The troop surge did work well in Iraq in spite of the nay-sayers.


    He has the same SECDEF as the last administration. Let's see what he decides and how it works out.



    Guy Babin
     
  10. highflyer

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    We are fighting the wrong war in the wrong place. Our soldiers are over in the Middle East fighting Muslim extremism while we have a President trying his best to bring down this country and force us all into communism. I wish there was someone fighting to preserve the Constitution and our freedom. By the time we realize what is happening it will be too late. If I were a young man without much family I would leave and go somewhere where I didn't care anymore. It is so hard to watch the country and freedom you grew up with being dismantled every day. Obama is doing that with a speed that any dictator would admire.
     
  11. ivanhoe

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    "I wish there was someone fighting to preserve the Constitution and our freedom. By the time we realize what is happening it will be too late."

    Anyone with a lick of common sense already knows what it happening in this country. The polls all show that the majority of Americans are against Obamma's health care reform package. Does he look like he gives a Sh@& he is still pushing it he doesn't care what you and I think he is there and he is doing as he pleases.

    What is he going to do when he has to go to Fist City with Iran?????

    Bob Lawless
     
  12. maltzahn

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    > >> Montana
    > >> Governor Signs
    > >> New Gun Law
    > –
    > >> The USA state of
    > >> Montana has signed into power a revolutionary gun law. I
    > >> mean REVOLUTIONARY. The
    > >> State of Montana has defied the federal government and
    > >> their gun laws. This will
    > >> prompt a showdown between the federal government and the
    > >> State of Montana . The
    > >> federal government fears citizens owning guns. They try to
    > >> curtail what types of
    > >> guns they can own. The gun control laws all have one common
    > >> goal – confiscation
    > >> of privately owned firearms.
    > >> Montana has
    > >> gone beyond
    > >> drawing a line in the sand. They have challenged the
    > >> Federal Government. The fed
    > >> now either takes them on and risks them saying the federal
    > >> agents have no right
    > >> to violate their state gun laws and arrest the federal
    > >> agents that try to
    > >> enforce the federal firearms acts. This will be a
    > >> world-class event to watch.
    > >> Montana could go to voting for secessi on from the union,
    > >> which is really
    > >> throwing the gauntlet in Obama's face. If the federal
    > >> government does nothing
    > >> they lose face. Gotta love it.
    > >> Important
    > >>
    > >> Points – If guns and
    > >> ammunition are
    > >> manufactured inside the State of Montana for sale and use
    > >> inside that state then
    > >> the federal firearms laws have no applicability since the
    > >> federal government
    > >> only has the power to control commerce across state lines.
    > >> Montana has the law
    > >> on their side. Since when did the USA start following their
    > >> own laws especially
    > >> the constitution of the USA , the very document that
    > >> empowers the USA .
    > >>
    > >> Silencers
    > >> made in
    > >> Montana and sol in Montana would be fully legal and not
    > >> registered. As a note
    > >> silencers were first used before the 007 movies as a device
    > >> to enable one to
    > >> hunt without disturbing neighbors and scaring game.. They
    > >> were also useful as
    > >> devices to control noise when practicing so as to not
    > >> disturb the neighbors.
    > >>
    > >> Silencers
    > >> work best
    > >> with a bolt-action rifle. There is a long barrel and the
    > >> chamber is closed tight
    > >> so as to direct all the gases though the silencer at th e
    > >> tip of the barrel.
    > >> Semi-auto pistols and revolvers do not really muffle the
    > >> sound very well except
    > >> on the silver screen. The revolvers bleed gas out with the
    > >> sound all over the
    > >> place. The semi-auto pistols bleed the gases out when the
    > >> slide recoils back.
    > >>
    > >> Silencers
    > >> are maybe
    > >> nice for snipers picking off enemy soldiers even though
    > >> they reduce velocity but
    > >> not very practical for hit men shooting pistols in crowded
    > >> places. Silencers
    > >> were useful tools for gun enthusiasts and hunters.
    > >>
    > >> There
    > >> would be no
    > >> firearm registration, serial numbers, criminal records
    > >> check, waiting periods or
    > >> paperwork required. So in a short period of time there
    > >> would be millions and
    > >> millions of unregistered untraceable guns in Montana . Way
    > >> to go Montana
    > >> !
    > >> Discussion
    > >>
    > >> –
    > >> Let us see what
    > >> Obama does. If he hits Montana hard they will probably vote
    > >> to secede from the
    > >> USA . The governor of Texas has already been refusing
    > >> Federal money because he
    > >> does not want to agree to the conditions that go with it
    > >> and he has been saying
    > >> secession is a right they have as sort of a threat. Things
    > >> are no longer the
    > >> same with the USA . Do not be deceived by Obama acting as
    > >> if all is the same, it
    > >> is not.
    > >> Text
    > >> of the New
    > >> Law
    > >>
    > >>
    > >> HOUSE
    > >> BILL NO.
    > >> 246
    > >> INTRODUCED
    > >> BY J.
    > >> BONIEK, BENNETT, BUTCHER, CURTISS, RANDALL,
    > >> WARBURTON
    > >> AN
    > >> ACT EXEMPTING FROM
    > >> FEDERAL REGULATION UNDER THE COMMERCE CLAUSE OF THE
    > >> CONSTITUTION OF THE UNITED
    > >> STATES A FIREARM, A FIREARM ACCESSORY, OR AMMUNITION
    > >> MANUFACTURED AND RETAINED
    > >> IN MONTANA ; AND PROVIDING AN APPLICABILITY
    > >> DATE.
    > >> BE
    > >> IT ENACTED BY THE
    > >> LEGISLATURE OF THE STATE OF MONTANA :
    > >> Section
    > >> 1. Short
    > >> title. [Sections 1 through 6] may be cited as the
    > >> "Montana Firearms Freedom
    > >> Act".
    > >> Section
    > >> 2. Legislative
    > >> declarations of authority. The legislature declares that
    > >> the authority=2 0for
    > >> [sections 1 through 6] is the following:
    > >> (1)
    > >> The 10th amendment
    > >> to the United States constitution guarantees to the states
    > >> and their people all
    > >> powers not granted to the federal government elsewhere in
    > >> the constitution and
    > >> reserves to the=2 0state and people of Montana certain
    > >> powers as they were
    > >> understood at the time that Montana was admitted to
    > >> statehood in 1889 The
    > >> guaranty of those powers is a matter of contract between
    > >> the state and people of
    > >> Montana and the United States as of the time that the
    > >> compact with the United
    > >> States was agreed upon and adopted by Montana and the
    > >> United States in
    > >> 1889.
    > >> (2)
    > >> The ninth
    > >> amendment to the United States constitution guarantees to
    > >> the people rights not
    > >> granted in the constitution and reserves to the people of
    > >> Montana certain
    > >> rights, as they were understood at the time that Montana
    > >> was admitted to
    > >> statehood in 1889. The guaranty of those rights is a matter
    > >> of contract between
    > >> the state and people of Montana and the United States as of
    > >> the time that the
    > >> compact with the United States was agreed upon and adopted
    > >> by Montana and the
    > >> United States in 1889.
    > >> (3)
    > >> The regulation of intrastate commerce is vested in the
    > >> states under the 9th and
    > >> 10th amendments to the United States constitution,
    > >> particularly if not expressly
    > >> preempted by federal law. Congress has not expressly
    > >> preempted state regulation
    > >> of intrastate commerce pertaining to the manufacture on an
    > >> intrastate basis of
    > >> firearms, firearms accessories, and
    > >> ammunition.
    > >> (4)
    > >> The second
    > >> amendment to the United States constitution reserves to the
    > >> people the right to
    > >> keep and bear arms as that right was understood at the time
    > >> that Montana was
    > >> admitted to statehood in 1889, and the guaranty of the
    > >> right is a matter of
    > >> contract between the state and people of Montana and the
    > >> United States as of the
    > >> time that the compact with the United States was agreed
    > >> upon and adopted by
    > >> Montana and the United States in 1889.
    > >> (5)
    > >> Article II, section 12, of the Montana constitution clearly
    > >> secures to Montana
    > >> citizens, and prohibits government interference with, the
    > >> right of individual
    > >> Montana citizens to keep and bear arms. This constitutional
    > >> protection is
    > >> unchanged from the 1889 Montana constitution, which was
    > >> approved by congress and
    > >> the people of Montana , and the right exists, as it was
    > >> understood at the time
    > >> that the compact with the United States was agr eed upon
    > >> and adopted by Montana
    > >> and the United States in 1889.
    > >> Section
    > >> 3.
    > >> Definitions. As used in [sections 1 through 6], the
    > >> following definitions
    > >> apply:
    > >> (1)
    > >> "Borders of
    > >> Montana " means the boundaries of Montana described in
    > >> Article I, section 1, of
    > >> the 1889 Montana constitution.
    > >> (2)
    > >> "Firearms accessories" means items that are used
    > >> in conjunction with or mounted
    > >> upon a firearm but are not essential to the basic function
    > >> of a firearm,
    > >> including but not limited to telescopic or laser sights,
    > >> magazines, flash or
    > >> sound suppressors, folding or aftermarket stocks and grips,
    > >> speedloaders,
    > >> ammunition carriers, and lights for target
    > >> illumination.
    > >> (3)
    > >> "Generic and
    > >> insignificant parts" includes but is not limited to
    > >> springs, screws, nuts, and
    > >> pins.
    > >> (4)
    > >> "Manufactured"
    > >> means that a firearm, a firearm accessory, or ammunition
    > >> has been created from
    > >> basic materials for functional usefulness, including but
    > >> not limited to forging,
    > >> casting, machining, or other processes for working
    > >> materials.
    > >> Section
    > >> 4.
    > >> Prohibitions. A personal firearm, a firearm accessory, or
    > >> ammunition that is
    > >> manufactured commercially or privately in Montana and that
    > >> remains within the
    > >> borders of Montana is not subject to federal law or federal
    > >> regulation,
    > >> including registration, under the authority of congress to
    > >> regulate interstate
    > >> commerce. It is declared by the legislature that those
    > >> items have not traveled
    > >> in interstate commerce. This secti on applies to a firearm,
    > >> a firearm accessory,
    > >> or ammunition that is manufactured in Montana from basic
    > >> materials and that can
    > >> be manufactured without the inclusion of any significant
    > >> parts imported from
    > >> another state. Generic and insignificant parts that have
    > >> other manufacturing or
    > >> consumer product applications are not firearms, firearms
    > >> accessories, or
    > >> ammunition, and their importation into Montana and
    > >> incorporation into a firearm,
    > >> a firearm accessory, or ammunition manufactured in Montana
    > >> does not subject the
    > >> firearm, firearm accessory, or ammunition to federal
    > >> regulation. It is declared
    > >> by the legislature that basic materials, such as unmachined
    > >> steel and unshaped
    > >> wood, are not firearms, firearms accessories, or ammunition
    > >> and are not subject
    > >> to congressional authority to regulate firearms, firearms
    > >> accessories, and
    > >> ammunition under interstate commerce as if they were
    > >> actually firearms, firearms
    > >> accessories, or ammunition. The authority of congress to
    > >> regulate interstate
    > >> commerce in basic materials does not include authority to
    > >> regulate firearms,
    > >> firearms accessories, and ammunition made in Montana from
    > >> those materials.
    > >> Firearms accessories that are imported into Montana from
    > >> another state and that
    > >> are subject to federal regulation as being in interstate
    > >> commerce do not subject
    > >> a firearm to federal regulation under interstate commerce
    > >> because they are
    > >> attached to or used in conjunction with a firearm in
    > >> Montana
    > >> ...
    > >> Section
    > >> 5. Exceptions.
    > >> [Section 4]=2 0does not apply to:
    > >> (1) A
    > >> firearm that cannot be carried and used by one
    > >> person;
    > >> (2)
    > >> A firearm that has
    > >> a bore diameter greater than 1 1/2 inches and that uses
    > >> smokeless powder, not
    > >> black powder, as a propellant;
    > >> (3)
    > >> ammunition with a projectile that explodes using an
    > >> explosion of chemical energy
    > >> after the projectile leaves the firearm; or
    > >> (4)
    > >> a firearm that
    > >> discharges two or more projectiles with one activation of
    > >> the trigger or other
    > >> firing device.
    > >> Section
    > >> 6. Marketing
    > >> of firearms. A firearm manufactured or sold in Montana
    > >> under [sections 1 through
    > >> 6] must have the words "Made in Montana " clearly
    > >> stamped on a central metallic
    > >> part , such as the receiver or frame.
    > >> Section
    > >> 7.
    > >> Codification instruction. [Sections 1 through 6] are
    > >> intended to be codified as
    > >> an integral part of Title 30, and the provisions of Title
    > >> 30 apply to [sections
    > >> 1 through 6].
    > >> Section
    > >> 8.
    > >> Applicability. [This act] applies to firearms, firearms
    > >> accessories, and
    > >> ammunition that are manufactured, as defined in [section
    > >> 3], and retained in
    > >> Montana after October 1,
    > >> 2009.
     
  13. gdbabin

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    maltzahn,

    My corneas exploded trying t read your post. I'll send you the eye doctor bill.


    Learn to use white space please!!! Especially if you want someone to actually read your writings/posts.


    Guy Babin, ABIWS



    (Avid Beliver In White Space)
     
  14. W.P.T.

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    Maltzahn,

    Now, I have a head ache ... What code is that ..? lol ... WPT ... (YAC) ...
     
  15. ivanhoe

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    gdbabin

    "My corneas exploded trying t read your post. I'll send you the eye doctor bill"

    Guy see if this help your eyes, if it does maybe we can avoid the eyeball wars....LOL

    Bob Lawless

    Montana Governor Signs New Gun Law

    The USA state of Montana has signed into power a revolutionary gun law I mean REVOLUTIONARY.

    The State of Montana has defied the federal government and their gun laws. This will prompt a showdown between the federal government and the State of Montana . The federal government fears citizens owning guns.

    They try to curtail what types of guns they can own. The gun control laws all have one common goal – confiscation of privately owned firearms. Montana has gone beyond drawing a line in the sand. They have challenged the Federal Government.

    The fed now either takes them on and risks them saying the federal agents have no right to violate their state gun laws and arrest the federal agents that try to enforce the federal firearms acts. This will be a world-class event to watch.

    Montana could go to voting for secessi on from the union, which is really throwing the gauntlet in Obama's face. If the federal government does nothing they lose face. Gotta love it. Important Points – If guns and ammunition are manufactured inside the State of Montana for sale and use inside that state then the federal firearms laws have no applicability since the federal government only has the power to control commerce across state lines. Montana has the law on their side.

    Since when did the USA start following their own laws especially the constitution of the USA , the very document that empowers the USA. Silencers made in Montana and sol in Montana would be fully legal and not registered. As a note silencers were first used before the 007 movies as a device to enable one to hunt without disturbing neighbors and scaring game.. They were also useful as devices to control noise when practicing so as to not disturb the neighbors. Silencers work best with a bolt-action rifle. There is a long barrel and the chamber is closed tight so as to direct all the gases though the silencer at the tip of the barrel.

    Semi-auto pistols and revolvers do not really muffle the sound very well except on the silver screen. The revolvers bleed gas out with the sound all over the place. The semi-auto pistols bleed the gases out when the slide recoils back. Silencers are maybe nice for snipers picking off enemy soldiers even though they reduce velocity but not very practical for hit men shooting pistols in crowded places. Silencers were useful tools for gun enthusiasts and hunters.

    There would be no firearm registration, serial numbers, criminal records check, waiting periods or paperwork required. So in a short period of time there would be millions and millions of unregistered untraceable guns in Montana . Way to go Montana!

    Discussion – Let us see what Obama does. If he hits Montana hard they will probably vote to secede from the USA. The governor of Texas has already been refusing Federal money because he does not want to agree to the conditions that go with it and he has been saying secession is a right they have as sort of a threat. Things are no longer the same with the USA .

    Do not be deceived by Obama acting as if all is the same, it is not. Text of the New Law HOUSE BILL NO. 246 INTRODUCED BY J. BONIEK, BENNETT, BUTCHER, CURTISS, RANDALL, WARBURTON AN ACT EXEMPTING FROM FEDERAL REGULATION UNDER THE COMMERCE CLAUSE OF THE CONSTITUTION OF THE UNITED STATES A FIREARM, A FIREARM ACCESSORY, OR AMMUNITION MANUFACTURED AND RETAINED IN MONTANA; AND PROVIDING AN APPLICABILITY DATE. BE IT ENACTED BY THE LEGISLATURE OF THE STATE OF MONTANA :

    Section 1. Short title. [Sections 1 through 6] may be cited as the "Montana Firearms Freedom Act". Section 2. Legislative declarations of authority. The legislature declares that the authority=2 0for [sections 1 through 6] is the following:

    (1) The 10th amendment to the United States constitution guarantees to the states and their people all powers not granted to the federal government elsewhere in the constitution and reserves to the=2 0state and people of Montana certain powers as they were understood at the time that Montana was admitted to statehood in 1889 The guaranty of those powers is a matter of contract between the state and people of Montana and the United States as of the time that the compact with the United States was agreed upon and adopted by Montana and the United States in 1889.

    (2) The ninth amendment to the United States constitution guarantees to the people rights not granted in the constitution and reserves to the people of Montana certain rights, as they were understood at the time that Montana was admitted to statehood in 1889. The guaranty of those rights is a matter of contract between the state and people of Montana and the United States as of the time that the compact with the United States was agreed upon and adopted by Montana and the United States in 1889.

    (3) The regulation of intrastate commerce is vested in the states under the 9th and 10th amendments to the United States constitution, particularly if not expressly preempted by federal law. Congress has not expressly preempted state regulation of intrastate commerce pertaining to the manufacture on an intrastate basis of firearms, firearms accessories, and ammunition.

    (4) The second amendment to the United States constitution reserves to the people the right to keep and bear arms as that right was understood at the time that Montana was admitted to statehood in 1889, and the guaranty of the right is a matter of contract between the state and people of Montana and the United States as of the time that the compact with the United States was agreed upon and adopted by Montana and the United States in 1889.

    (5) Article II, section 12, of the Montana constitution clearly secures to Montana citizens, and prohibits government interference with, the right of individual Montana citizens to keep and bear arms. This constitutional protection is unchanged from the 1889 Montana constitution, which was approved by congress and the people of Montana , and the right exists, as it was understood at the time that the compact with the United States was agr eed upon and adopted by Montana and the United States in 1889.
    Section 3. Definitions. As used in [sections 1 through 6], the following definitions apply:

    (1) "Borders of Montana" means the boundaries of Montana described in Article I, section 1, of the 1889 Montana constitution.

    (2) "Firearms accessories" means items that are used in conjunction with or mounted upon a firearm but are not essential to the basic function of a firearm, including but not limited to telescopic or laser sights, magazines, flash or sound suppressors, folding or aftermarket stocks and grips, speedloaders, ammunition carriers, and lights for target illumination.

    (3) "Generic and insignificant parts" includes but is not limited to springs, screws, nuts, and pins.

    (4) "Manufactured" means that a firearm, a firearm accessory, or ammunition has been created from basic materials for functional usefulness, including but not limited to forging, casting, machining, or other processes for working materials.

    Section 4. Prohibitions. A personal firearm, a firearm accessory, or ammunition that is manufactured commercially or privately in Montana and that remains within the borders of Montana is not subject to federal law or federal regulation, including registration, under the authority of congress to regulate interstate commerce. It is declared by the legislature that those items have not traveled in interstate commerce. This secti on applies to a firearm, a firearm accessory, or ammunition that is manufactured in Montana from basic materials and that can be manufactured without the inclusion of any significant parts imported from another state. Generic and insignificant parts that have other manufacturing or consumer product applications are not firearms, firearms accessories, or ammunition, and their importation into Montana and incorporation into a firearm, a firearm accessory, or ammunition manufactured in Montana does not subject the firearm, firearm accessory, or ammunition to federal regulation.

    It is declared by the legislature that basic materials, such as unmachined steel and unshaped wood, are not firearms, firearms accessories, or ammunition and are not subject to congressional authority to regulate firearms, firearms accessories, and ammunition under interstate commerce as if they were actually firearms, firearms accessories, or ammunition. The authority of congress to regulate interstate commerce in basic materials does not include authority to regulate firearms, firearms accessories, and ammunition made in Montana from those materials.

    Firearms accessories that are imported into Montana from another state and that are subject to federal regulation as being in interstate commerce do not subject a firearm to federal regulation under interstate commerce because they are attached to or used in conjunction with a firearm in Montana.
    Section 5. Exceptions. [Section 4]=2 0does not apply to:

    (1) A firearm that cannot be carried and used by one person;

    (2) A firearm that has a bore diameter greater than 1 1/2 inches and that uses smokeless powder, not black powder, as a propellant;

    (3) ammunition with a projectile that explodes using an explosion of chemical energy after the projectile leaves the firearm; or

    (4) a firearm that discharges two or more projectiles with one activation of the trigger or other firing device.

    Section 6. Marketing of firearms. A firearm manufactured or sold in Montana under [sections 1 through 6] must have the words "Made in Montana " clearly stamped on a central metallic part, such as the receiver or frame.

    Section 7. Codification instruction. [Sections 1 through 6] are intended to be codified as an integral part of Title 30, and the provisions of Title 30 apply to [sections1 through 6].

    Section 8. Applicability. [This act] applies to firearms, firearms accessories, and ammunition that are manufactured, as defined in [section 3], and retained in Montana after October 1, 2009.
     
  16. gdbabin

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    Thanks Bob.. much better!


    JayZap, you gotta full auto shotgun?? Might be interesting for doubles...


    Guy B
     
  17. gdbabin

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    All good. Technically you are correct.



    It's tough to use the english language sometimes when writing rules and regulations.


    I think a full auto scatter gun would be fun--there are some out there. On second thought, I already go through enough shells.


    Guy
     
  18. Big Heap

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    Barack Obama , through his spokesman, claimed that he was unaware of the tax day tea parties. Granted, the main stream media has done a good job in suppressing any sort of coverage ahead of time (and the little coverage they did provide was derisive at best)… but how out of touch is the Community Organizer in Chief, really?

    This much.

    - He was unaware that he was attending a church (for 20 years) with a racist pastor who hates America .

    - He was unaware that he was family friends with, and started his political career in the living room of, a domestic terrorist.

    - He was unaware that he had invested in two speculative companies backed by some of his top donors right after taking office in 2005.

    - He was unaware that his own aunt was living in the US illegally.

    - He was unaware that his own brother lives on pennies a day in a hut in Kenya .

    - He was unaware of the AIG bonuses that he and his administration approved and signed into a bill.

    - He was unaware that the man he nominated to be his Secretary of Commerce was under investigation in a bribery scandal.

    - He was unaware that the man he nominated to be his Secretary of Health and Human Services was a tax cheat.

    - He was unaware that the man he nominated to be his Secretary of the Treasury was a tax cheat.

    - He was unaware that the man he nominated to be the U.S. Trade Representative was a tax cheat.

    - He was unaware that the woman he nominated to be his Chief Performance Officer was a tax cheat.

    - He was unaware that the man he nominated to be #2 at the Environmental Protection Agency was under investigation for mismanaging $25 million in EPA grants.


    For the love of God, there are people in comas that are more aware of world affairs than this smooth talking, village idiot.
     
  19. daddiooo

    daddiooo TS Supporters TS Supporters

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    Barry is nothing but an inexperienced boob and sorely out of touch with reality. He is unaware that he has just shit in his lunchbox also.

    He has an entire segment of his staff that does nothing but watch sites like this and "Impeach Obama.com", Fox News, Rush Limbaugh, Glenn Beck, Martha Stewart, Tea Partys and anything derogatory said or published about him not to mention the "White House Snitch Line" so you can turn in your neighbors.


    Look like pre-WWII Germany a little bit?
     
  20. Dahaub

    Dahaub Active Member

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    Did you guys come up with the snitch line because the repubs had one? What goes around comes around and it sucks when it's not in your favor don't it? LOL Dan
     
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