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SOLD - Les Baer 1911 45ACP - 0.3 INCH GROUPS-SOLD

Discussion in 'For Sale' started by Krieghoff100, Apr 28, 2012.

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    SOLD Les Baer 1911 Premier II Super-Tac, .45 ACP - SOLD PF

    Baer NM steel frame, NM slide and NM barrel with stainless bushing • Slide fitted to frame • Double serrated slide • Low mount LBC adjustable rear sight and Baer dovetail front sight both fitted with tritium night sights • Lowered and flared ejection port • Tuned and polished extractor • Baer extended ejector • Baer checkered slide stop • Baer speed trigger with crisp 4 lb pull • Baer deluxe Commander hammer and sear • Baer beavertail grip safety with pad • Flat serrated mainspring housing • Beveled mag well • Polished feed ramp and throated barrel • Baer tactical style safety • High checkered front strap @ 30 lpi • Pistol tuned for total reliability • Baer Premium Checkered Cocobola grips • Deburred for tactical carry • DuPont® S coating on complete pistol for maximum corrosion resistance • (2) 8-round premium magazines

    Recently updated night sights under warranty with orange rear/green front inserts.

    Incredibly accurate - see 25 yd Ransom Rest target - 0.3 Inch group !!!

    Selling as I no longer have time to compete in Bullseye. Also listed on Gunbroker.

    Replacement - $2,370 + $295 for 1.5" guarantee (when I complained to Les that the largest group I could get was 0.3", he offered a free exchange for a less accurate version ;-)!!


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    Second owner. Original owner ordered with single safety. I was told it had guarantee but no box or papers. Ransom rest target from my original purchase test appears to confirm this. I hate to sell, but I haven't used it in several years and it's too good to sit in safe. Needs to go to someone who will use!!
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    Not sure what current wait is, but last Pistol I ordered from Les (Stinger) took about 6 months to get.
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    Depends on what model you want. I have a PII with 1.5 guarantee coming in another 6 weeks for $1850 delivered! Crazy John out of Idaho has hundreds of models in stock at the best prices! Plenty on Gunbroker! All depends on what you want! Tom Rhoads
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    Les Baer makes the finest 1911's but you don't really have a .3 in group gun. You have 4 shot in one hole and the fifth looks like about 1 1/2 " group. It is very common for a round to jump out of the group. I have a Ransom Rest and a couple of very accurate 45's. One is a highly modified Gold Cup with Krieger accurails and the other is an Ed Brown based on a Les Baer slide and frame. They will put 5 shots in one hole but the sixth would always jump out and I would end up with an 8 shot group of about 1 1/2" @25yds. All I ever used was reloads. I thought Les Baer's boast was based on 10 shot groups at 50yds. Guys like Ed Brown always scoffed at such advertisements. I think 1 1/2" at 50 yds pushes the limits of 45 acp ammo capabilities without considering the gun tolerances. I have always doubted Baer's accuracy claims and thought it probably impossible to duplicate. But he does make a very fine gun.

    I see an x beside the hole outside the group. That could be the first shot fired but it won't make any difference. There will always be a couple that jump out.
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    Circled round was 1st shot - hand cycled. Balance were recoil cycled.
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    Prretty common to have the first round print outside of the group - a pistol that will put rounds on top of each other @ 25 yards is exceptionally accurate and hard to find. You have it priced right for what is being offered.
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    Thanks for the nice comments. I think that the price is fair. As any who have owned Les Baer pistols (I have several) can attest, the close tolerances lead to significant break-in time and they are not all this accurate (with or without the guarantee!) This one is all broken in with proven accuracy - and it still looks like new. I hate to sell, but it has been just sitting in a safe for over a year and it wants to get out and shoot! Needs a new owner who is ready to move up to the best...
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    Not trying to dis the accuracy of your gun but any pistol that throws the first shot equals 2 thrown shots per 10 shot target. That would put you at a considerable disadvantage shooting bullseye. You really need to measure all of the 5 shots, that's the true accuracy of a firearm.
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    Fortunately my George Madore and Jim Clark 1911 builds do not throw the 1st shot, even when disassembled cleaned and reassembled.
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    sarge, 10 shot groups is what we actually need to see to really know anything. A 10 shot group is what really tells the story. When using a Ransom Rest, the first shot may jump out, the last shot may jump out or any one in between. Could be for several reasons. One group may look like the one pictured, the next may be 5 separate holes.

    Toolmaker, unless you have a Ransom Rest, you won't know if the first shot is off is off or not.
    Some claim to be able to shoot better than a Ransom Rest, but they can't do it for long.
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    Sorry Perazzi100, I mis-spoke, you actually have a really accurate pistol not a super accurate one. Geez....

    BTW just how many fairies can dance on the head of a pin?
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