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  1. Kim Little

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    Here's something for you to be aware of;
    the final decision is yours.



    A Google search revealed that Snopes.com is owned by David and Barbara Mikkelson, who live in Southern California and are Obama supporters. An interested reader suspected that Snopes had a liberal bias after discovering several "half-truths" and distortions.

    Compare their analysis of the Obama/Ayers connection with truthorfiction.com's analysis of the same subject. Snopes minimizes the connection, categorizing the rumor as a "Partial Truth," while truthorfiction calls it a "Truth" and, in fact, references a CNN expose of the two, as well as a Wall Street Journal article about their connection. Snopes not only does not reference either source cited above, but instead, lists a quote from an Obama spokesman as its main source.
     
  2. bocephus

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    Neil will most likely dispute what you just said and he will use snopes as his source of the proof.
     
  3. Brian in Oregon

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    I've mentioned this here before. A typical Snopes ploy is to cherry pick out a few incorrect facts, then declare an entire document false based on those few incorrect facts, and ignore the ones that are valid.

    Snopes is not and never will be totally reliable. I'm not saying to not use Snopes, as they've been accurate for some things, like non-political email stories. But when it comes to politics, take everything they say with a grain of salt, and verify independently. And if anyone cites Snopes as justifying their political argument, explain the above and tell them you need better verification that Snopes.
     
  4. halfmile

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    Liberal bias. Period.

    HM
     
  5. stokinpls

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    What is it Chuckie says? "Unread, inadequate and cheap." Good descriptor of Snopes.
     
  6. Neil Winston

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    In too many cases, I find truthorfiction.com the equivalent of "push polling" on the phone, the ones which start by asking if you are in favor, say, of a new, publicly financed stadium and when you say no, go on to ask "So you want constructions workers to starve, it that right?" It's more a mouthpiece for right-wing proselytizing than the "truth" they say they are peddling.

    Above is an example, I picked only because it's at the top of the list on their home page.

    An example of push polling in this entry?

    "The opinion might have some valid observations of the President's statements during what critics of the Obama Administration have dubbed the "2009 Apologetic Tour." "

    Now I don't think anyone would say that comment has anything to do with the Estes letter; it is just a way for TOF to get in a dig, as is, in fact, the whole rest of the piece.

    By the way, Snopes calls that letter "truth" (in authorship, that is) so at least they have spent the time finding out, though TOF is content with "unknown authorship," because they haven't yet spent any time on the truth of it yet, though it seems that's their job.

    Neil
     
  7. stokinpls

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    If you libs want some real news, here it is. Should bring a tear to their eye.

    "Conservatives tend to poo-poo the threat posed by Global Warming, suggesting it should be treated to the same scientific scrutiny as any other theory instead of blindly accepting it whole-cloth.

    This writer was in the same boat until news came out of Scotland about the extinction of Earth's most gentle and majestic creatures.

    According to noted biologist and "Nessie hunter" Robert Rines, Global Warming has killed the Loch Ness Monster.

    "Despite having hundreds of sonar contacts over the years, the trail has since gone cold and Rines believes that Nessie may be dead, a victim of global warming."

    The 85-year old American has spent the last 37-years searching for the aquatic creature using an array of sonar equipment. After taking one possible photograph of the beast's flipper in 1971 Rines has concluded Nessie has gone the way of the Dodo bird.

    As an amateur cryptozoologist, and a descendent of Scottish Highlanders, this news is distressing.

    The extinction of the Loch Ness sub-species only leaves two remaining populations of nessiteras rhombopteryx in the world; Lake Chelan and Lake Baikal in Siberia.

    Like a canary in a coal mine explosion this tragedy should sound the warning bell to all lovers of cryptoid creatures. It is not just the world's population of "Nessies" that face extinction from the effects of Global Warming.

    Our native Sasquatch population was already in sharp decline due to anthropomorphic geological events. Depending on an ecosystem of pristine temperate rain forests all sub-species of Sasquatch are acutely vulnerable to even the slightest change in weather variables.

    Thriving indigenous populations of Sasquatch that had settled around Ape Canyon on Mount St. Helens northeast slopes have been largely wiped out or dispersed after the goddess Louwala-Clough grew wroth over the arrogant behavior demonstrated by encroaching suburban sprawl and caused the mountain to erupt in 1980. (See the 1999 article in Cryptoid Biologist titled "Virgins, Volcanoes and appeasing Vulcan")

    Poor forest management policies of the Bush administration have led to the extinctions of Sasquatch populations in the Beaver Creek and Busy Wild River watersheds (located in the Elbe Hills) as well as the eradication of the Humboldt subspecies in Northern California.

    Although Sasquatch are still numerous in British Columbia and Alaska, populations of the hominoid in the Lower 48 States have been in sharp decline in recent years despite relocation efforts and vigorous volunteer breeding programs.

    As a species that has never been officially scientifically documented, Sasquatch are particularly susceptible to the effects of anthropomorphic Global Warming; which too has never been officially scientifically documented. Higher temperatures leave the fur covered bipeds more vulnerable to disease due to mange, langor and poor diet. Warmer winters do not kill off parasitic larvae incubating in trees and on the forest floor. It has been documented that Global Warming is solely responsible for forest fires which, prior to the Industrial Revolution, were non-existent in the Pacific Northwest.

    It is also unknown how the ravages of anthropomorphic Global Warming have afflicted the populations of other lesser-known cryptoid species. With the demise of the scientific journal Weekly World News research projects documenting species such as the Chupacabra, Elvii, Yeti, Batboy and Mothman have been severely curtailed.

    There is still time for action.

    Readers need to contact their local elected representatives to demand that legislation be enacted to document and preserve our cryptoid animals and to turn the clock back on climate change.

    Let us all rally behind the cry "Global Warming Killed the Loch Ness Monster!!!"

    I've written to my congressman. You need to do the same"
     
  8. Don S

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    Snopes may be biased, however, they do some research before making a decision on true or false. Not so with those among us who forward or copy and paste anything they read that supports their own agenda.
     
  9. Barry C. Roach

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    Snopes writes for the libs. Don't be fooled. There jig is up.
     
  10. Frank C

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    Ronnie Raygun had it right.....trust but verify
     
  11. Brian in Oregon

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    stokinpls, lol, a mythical extinction of a mythical creature by a mythical climate change.
     
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