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Discussion in 'Uncategorized Threads' started by mrskeet410, Jul 18, 2008.

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  1. mrskeet410

    mrskeet410 TS Member

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    Snap-Caps, the most dangerous devices in the shotgun sports. I've seen TVs, clubhouses, and shade trees over parked cars shot by snap-caps.

    I'm not convinced dropping the hammers does anything useful. Firing pins are cheap.
     
  2. cubancigar2000

    cubancigar2000 Well-Known Member

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    I think you may have forgotten about the idiot behind the trigger. That's what makes guns dangerous
     
  3. ec90t

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    cuban',

    I'm in total agreement! The idiot behind the trigger has the ultimate say-so in how dangerous a gun truely is.

    The down side of this is some innocent bystander usually pays the price for said stupidity.

    ec90t
     
  4. The Kolar Kid

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    Humans are the most dangerous thing in shooting and in most saftely matter whatever it is.

    KK
     
  5. Porcupine

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    Respectfully, I disagree. I've been using my snap caps in my Browning Broadway with no problems at all. This trap gun was made in 1960, and I don't want to take any chances with over-stressed springs.

    The problem isn't the snap caps, it's stupid shooters.

    Snap caps do not kill people, stupid people kill people.

    LA
     
  6. BIGDON

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    The true idiot is the one who starts the same thread twice.

    Don
     
  7. geneleroy

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    My old 101's have never 'fired' a snap cap yet.(34 years) (And firing pins are not cheap anymore, when you can find them!)
     
  8. wolfram

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    Without intending to be inflamatory, is it really necessary to relax the hammer spring(s) on a shotgun? I just have a hard time understanding why these high end guns that are supposed to last a lifetime cannot have the hammer springs compressed for more than a few minutes at a time. Honest question, no trolling.
     
  9. recurvyarcher

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    Real shells cannot be mistaken for a fuzzy snap cap. I use the fuzzy ones.
     
  10. timb99

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    wolfram,

    I struggle with that same question.

    I'm no materials specialist, but it seems to me that springs are more likely to wear out because of duty cycles, and less so because of being held in a stressed position.

    Certainly, being held in the same position for a long time, the spring will take a set, but I think that means a really long time.

    That is to say, I believe you're far more likely to wear out your hammer springs by shooting your gun than by leaving it in your safe with the hammers cocked.

    And further, even if you release the spring with a snap cap, the spring is still under compression.

    Sounds like a good senior project for a clever Mechanical Engineering student with a "strength of materials" background.

    Tim
     
  11. wolfram

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    Kind of what I think Tim but I don't own any guns that are that special.

    Speaking of special, I recently picked up a M1912 20 gauge circa 1915 in great mechanical condition. This gun had spent most of it's life in a closet with a loaded magazine. So I cleaned the cobwebs out of the barrel and took this 93 year old beauty to the range and shot 100 rounds of skeet doubles with it. No malfunctions of any kind. I guess time and compression didn't effect those springs.
     
  12. BDodd

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    I heard of a dude looking at a gun for sale and asked the owner of the gun if he could drop the hammer on his snap cap. With a "yes" answer, he reached into his pocket where his snap caps were and dropped a likely item in the tube and blew a hole in the sky over the heads of observers. So many guns are equipped with a way to release the hammer springs without risking damage when putting the gun away. Folks need to see if that's true with their prized smoke pole. Even without such a mechanism, one can hold a coin to the firing pin hole and drop the hammer on a broke down gun. There's no need at all for worrying about it during a day at the range keeping the gun put together. I personally don't like seeing anything in a chamber when not on the line and aimed in a safe place. Just my $.02....breakemall....Bob Dodd
     
  13. hoggy

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    No I think stupidity is.
     
  14. FLIP

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    I have droped the firing pin on my snap cap caps for 15 years, not one went off, so whats a good looad for a snap cap? 8s or 9s ????
     
  15. trim tab

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    I agree. It is their wrong head doing their thinkin or not at all. When you have a firearm in your hand you need to be aware.

    Good shootin!
     
  16. Haskins Bill

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    No real feelings one way or the other about snap caps. I use them in my Red Label because it fits into a case without breaking it down. My BT on the other hand is always broken down so no snap caps. I shot a piece of 2x lumber for a little show and tell with my high school trap shooters last night and they were impressed with what a load of 7 1/2's did at ten feet! I then told them about the shooting accident posted here recently about the person that shot someone else as he supposedly dropped the hammer on a 'snap' cap/spent shell'. I emphasized that safety is not to be taken for granted ever!Not now or fifty years from now! I told the kids to ALWAYS have the barrel pointed in a safe direction no matter what! I am going to give my demo to a friend that does hunter safety courses at our club to use along with his blown up barrel he uses as a training aid. Bill
     
  17. Old Cowboy

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    I haven't ever had a snap-cap go off either, must be bad primers?

    John C. Saubak
     
  18. JOND

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    Aren't you supposed to always point any gun in a safe direction,especially if you pull the trigger? Treat every gun as if it were loaded? JOND
     
  19. ou.3200

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    I agree with Bob Dodd on this one. There shouldn't be anything in the chamber at any gun club except when the shooter is on the line ready to shoot. We are all human and it is all too easy to make a mistake.
     
  20. Harold

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    I'm with the anti-snap cappers. Yes, they can be handled safely, but some of the most dangerous gun handling I've seen has involved snap caps. And all for something of questionable value, if not counterproductive.
     
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