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Shoulder pain Update

Discussion in 'Shooting Related Threads' started by rexxon631g, Apr 8, 2012.

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  1. rexxon631g

    rexxon631g Member

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    Well I am going to ask you fellows cause I am sure the doctors don't know diddley. I am having shoulder pain on my shooting side but the pain is worst when I sit in my Lazyboy I can fall asleep in it and wake up in agony.
    It seems worst when my arm is down by my side a pressure is palced upward on my elbow, right out on the end of my shoulder. If I move around during the day its not to bad but still there.
     
  2. Barry C. Roach

    Barry C. Roach Well-Known Member

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    See a shoulder doc. You need diagnosed.
     
  3. AveragEd

    AveragEd Well-Known Member

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    I'm facing surgery on my left shoulder for a torn rotator cuff. It's been torn since 1964, playing high school baseball, but really didn't bother me until 1994, when mounting my trap gun or a rifle became painful. I had it repaired via arthroscopic surgery then but last summer, the pain returned. I was to have reconstructive surgery last Friday but a Tuesday pre-op EKG showed something my doctor didn't like so I had to have a two-day stress test on Wednesday and Thursday, which didn't leave enough time for the results to be interpreted for a Friday operation. I'm waiting for the results now and will likely try to put the surgery off until November, when racing season ends.

    My pain is weird - sometimes it hurts with the arm hanging down, other times up over my head is worse but I sleep best with it over my head. Last Monday, I reached for a car door handle with my left arm, heard a loud "pop" and saw a bright white light. The pain was such that I just wanted to lie down in the parking lot.

    Good luck with yours.

    Ed
     
  4. BigM-Perazzi

    BigM-Perazzi Well-Known Member

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    Frozen shoulder will cause you to search for comfortable positions in awkward positions. Requires a good physical therapist after the the dr specialist ...
     
  5. Ross

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    BigM-Perazzi is right you need a joint specialist, & he will probably give you a cortisone shot & recommend a PT, took me several months to "get-over" a frozen shoulder, I couldn't even reach out to open a door, still have to do exercises to keep it limbered up. Ross Puls
     
  6. Dirtyharry357Mag

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    Hi Ed
    I would like to know the out come of your surgery,
    It looks like I will need the same.. I am also trying to put it off..
    Some times the pain is unbearable..

    Best of luck to you all, Harry
     
  7. Rick in Ohio

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    I have that problem also but I have found out shooting more will make the pain go away. IT comes back every winter when times show down.

    Its hell to get old! ........ your mine tells you that you can do it but your body tells you that you shouldn't have done it after you have or ready gone ahead and did it.

    I am having a little neck problem for the last two days and I can't wait to get out on a trap line tomorrow so the pain will go away.
     
  8. Shoot n Holler

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    I had the same problem two years ago. shoulder hurt felt like someone was sticking a knife in me for weeks.Then at the grand after shooting I lost felling in my arm and could not sit at all. Neck injury. all is good now no drugs or shots just therapy.Have the doc take x-rays of you neck.

    Mark
     
  9. grntitan

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    I got tired of dealing with this very issue(constant shoulder pain). I have tried every fix-it method suggested from injections, strong narcotics, home remedys to ice. I finally fixed the thing for good. I had it replaced Thursday March 29th. Now just 11 days out from the surgery, my shoulder feels better than it has in years. I do have some minor surgical pain but have already lost all that middle of the night aching, stabbing, burning pain. The surgery was a piece of cake compared to the rotator cuff and detached labrum shoulder surgeries in my past. Doc says 3 months and I can do anything I want with the arm. The Surgeon offered the replacement to me almost two years ago but I was scared of that thought. Finally after sitting up at night with a throbbing shoulder and tears building up from the pain I decided this was crazy. I'm not saying its the solution for everyone but boy am I happy I finally took that plunge.
     
  10. Chango2

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    I had a very bad rotator cuff tear similiar to the time frame of Average Ed. Mine from '74 first injury, crashing a motorcycle offroad on the Mojave. Second big "ouch" in '99 mantling out of a kayak at a dock...I heard the ripping sound that time!!! Third memorable "ouch" was in '08 picking up an RV propane tank. I finally had had enough, hurt to pick up a trapgun and move it, (did so anyway), posture was bad, etc. due to being wracked around from the right side damage.

    Dr. fixed all with arthroscopic surgery last July,. Very good result now considering how bad it was. Some residual stiffness to be expected; stiffness slowly abating, Dr. told me he really had to pull and tighten things. He was surprised how bad a mess I had despite a heads up from the MRI. He has a MRI machine at his office, does most of the surgery outpatient style at an endoscopic clinic.

    I live in Los Angeles approx. where State Route 2 and Interstate 5 intersect. Therefore, a trip almost anywhere in the county is within reason...but I opted to go 8 miles west of home to a well-known sports Dr./endoscopic group that seems to have the "franchise" for fixing these things in the San Fernando Valley/North Los Angeles area. They have helped so many in sports; from baseball players to dragster driving drag racers. A famous outfit. (Stetson and Powell Dr.s, Burbank, California. See also their website. Both very talented and smart, smart, smart. Powell, by the way, used to be "Santini" in Sha-Na-Na, the group, singing in gold lame until medicine caught his eye!!!)

    Another place to consult with is a Dr. Darrow (or Barrow, I forget exactly, have heard him speak on the radio) in Santa Monica...he does prolotherapy and is staff at UCLA, a teaching hospital. Sometimes prolotherapy, an old technique, but highly refined now, will fix things. It was my experience with another Dr., that prolotherapy fixed my half torn achilles, but didn't help my shoulder 'cause one major tendon for the superspinadous was torn all the way through. And two bone spurs were surprisingly large at approx. 1/2 inch.

    Please private message me for any particular information/opinion as a patient if you wish.

    Regards to all,

    David Buchman

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  11. dhip

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    Yep,go see the Doc. Friend that got me into this sport developed the big O problem in his shooting shoulder.It doesn't only hit women,it can hit men also. Brittle bones need treatment too.

    Doug H.
     
  12. rexxon631g

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    Thanks for the reply, I got an appointmeny for Thurdays another cortisone shot I'll bet.
     
  13. rexxon631g

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    Well in for rotator cuff operation on the 28th of June, doctor asked what I did for recreation I said shooting trap and fishing, nice guy he is a shooter also his response was I can forget the winter leauge this year.
     
  14. AveragEd

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    Harry, you asked for an update but this probably won't be what you wanted to hear.

    The hospital did an EKG a week prior to the surgery date and sent it to my family doctor who saw something she didn't like, so I had to go to her office for another one. It showed the same thing so I had to go in for two days of nuclear stress tests. I was finally cleared for surgery a day after it was supposed to happen.

    But three days after that "pop" business, my shoulder felt better than it had for a long time. I still can't shoot a rifle or shotgun offhand but I'm now going to put the operation off until after racing season.

    Ed
     
  15. JACK

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    Frozen shoulder? had that for a long time. Occasionally I do something that tears the adhesions loose and then I am good for about a week and then like they never left, the shoulder is a mess again. Imaging does not show the afflicted area, and the last two cortisone shots did no good at all. The first one worked back in '06. Since then nothing. I've begun my own therapy just this morning after a miserable weekend. I'll give that 2 weeks before I look for another ortho guy to go see. I do think my answer is PT, but my last experiences with PT incompetence sours me. Then again (and now that I am thinking about it) I may search for a PT outlet today.
     
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    Rex, I had/have a mildly herniated disc in my neck. A neurosurgeon got me diagnosed!! MRI showed the herniation. Physical therapy has helped, as have 7/8 oz loads. Trying my best not have have the disc removed, the herniation causes pressure on the nerve to the shoulder area, so I have numbness from the elbow back up to top of shoulder joint. I would recommend getting a Professional diagnosis....emergency room Doctors nor my every day doctor could get the job done for me....a Neurosurgeon did! Note I could not shoot for 6 month while in Physical Therapy, but am now back at it, with less rounds each week! Best of Luck
     
  17. Barry C. Roach

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    Rexxon. Your doc has to follow protocol written by your insurance company. They will exhaust all cheaper treatments before authorizing surgery. If you already have tried physical therapy(s) and steroidal injections without some degree of permanent relief then, usually surgery is indicated.

    You have to have patience with the process. Good luck.
     
  18. Bruce Specht

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    Find a good orth in your area and go see him /her. follow the instructions you get and you'll be back shooting and pain free. I hope all goes well for all of you suffering with shoulder issues. Three years ago I had my shoulder replacement replaced as I wore the first one out in 12 years. I am pain free with a great range of motion. The key was doing the excercise to break up the scar tissue after the surgeries, 5 to the same shoulder in total. Good Luck and God Bless
     
  19. Catpower

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    Some good info on here thanks guys. I've had bursitis in my right shoulder since I can remember, at least that's what they called it I kinda wonder if it isn't something else, doesn't bother me too much in the summer but kills me all winter, when it really flares up, I load a bunch of 3 inch magnums and shoot a couple rounds with them in one of my 870's, it helps when I beat the piss out of my shoulder I guess, or it makes the rest of my shoulder hurt so much I ignore the lump that hurts

    But when it's acting up, I can't lift my right arm, I have to use my left arm to help, it's a real PITA
     
  20. Dr.Longshot

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    I listened to Dr.Oz about the pain on TV he had a guy put his arms behind him and a guy slowly put them together several times stretching I believe tendons
    and that helped.

    I did the same thing and took 3 cyclobenzprene Flexarill tablets 1 every 8 hours + 3 Glucosomine tablets a day, 1 every 8 hours and the pain is hardly noticable now, I needed to do something nwith the Grudge Match coming up next week.

    Gary Bryant
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