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Should I buy a .223 rifle or a 22-250 rifle?

Discussion in 'Shooting Related Threads' started by Dr.Longshot, Mar 8, 2012.

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  1. Dr.Longshot

    Dr.Longshot Banned Banned

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    I have a few boxes of 22-250 shells, but the cost of new .223 shells is very cheap
    going to use on coyotes, ground hogs,

    and a cheap rifle is the Savage AXIS less thn $275 at my cost + scope.

    Gary Bryant
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  2. SBray

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    Gary,

    I think the 22-250 would be the best choice for your intended use, even thought the .223 is a cheaper round. I have had both, and if I am not mistaken, the 22-250 will work at a farther range.

    JMHO,

    Steve
     
  3. crusha

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    Snot-nosed kid? Go with .223...Gander Mtn. will be easier on your wallet, then.



    Mature adult, loading your own ammo? 22-250 all the way.
     
  4. CalvinMD

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    They both work great Gary...if you are set on the Savage which is excellent for the money...I'd go the 22-250...its a large action that looks sort of oversized if only working 223...as was said if you are/are not reloading is another consideration
     
  5. colth_00

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    My thinking is exactly the same as yours. It seems like with a varmint gun like that you will probably be throwing alot of shells down range and 223 are really cheap. I know my next varmint rifle will be an AR type 223.
     
  6. halfmile

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    All depends on how much shooting.

    Not really a Pdog gun, 22-250 is more potent. About 150 yards more of effective practical range until you become more advanced.

    HM
     
  7. ctreay

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    I mulled over a choice between a 220 swift and a 22-250, I chose the 22-250 in a Savage mod 11 and have never been sorry.

    ctreay
     
  8. bigdogtx

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    Are you calling them in? If less than 150 yards, I would feel fine with the AR.
     
  9. 2500 HD

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    At that price get 1 of each. I have both and like both. Dead is dead the critter won't ask what you used on em!!!! .223 is alot cheeper.
     
  10. Brian in Oregon

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    The 22-250 has about 400 fps over the 223 at almost any range. The 22-250 at 100 yards has the same velocity as the 223 at the muzzle, and same for energy.

    If your shots are mainly 250 yards or less, the 223 is more than suitable.

    If you are regularly shooting to 300 yards or more, the 22-250 is better.

    The 22-250 is overkill at most ranges for the smaller varmints (under prairiedog size like sage rats).

    The 22-250 is better for the larger varmints like rockchucks or groundhogs over 200 yards. While the 223 will definitely kill, there are fewer crawl offs with the 22-250. Also, they keel over dead from the 223, but the 22-250 will lift the rockchucks up and slam them into the rimrock behind them.

    I've used both the 223 and 22-250 on coyotes. Hands down the 22-250 is better. Unfortunately it's not chambered in an AR15, so I mainly use 223. (I also have a 25-06, and nothing beats it for long range coyote destruction.)

    The 223 is much cheaper to feed. And the 223 will not heat up barrels and burn out throats as fast.

    The 223 is better for a target rich environment, like sage rats. The 22-250 is better for low volume fire like rockchucks/groundhogs and coyotes. In between it's hard to say, really depends on budget and other factors.

    If you are using scopes with higher magnification, the 22-250 can generate enough recoil to move the image off of target. This usually does not happen with the 223 unless the rifle is very light or an AR15 is being used (the moving bolt mass can induce movement on high powered scopes).

    Ultimately, the best solution is to have both cartridges.

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    Before I got my Remington R15 for coyote hunting, these two Browning 1885s were my main varmint and coyote rifles. The 22-250 is on top, the 223 below. Both scopes are 6.5-20x Leupolds. This 1885 in 223 has killed more critters than all of my other guns combined (and believe me I have a lot), including rimfires. The 22-250 is a better open country gun. I bought the 22-250 before Browning started chambering for the 223 in this model.
     
  11. Allen-MX8

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    I have a Remington 700 VLS in .22-250 with a heavy barrel and a Leupold 6.5 X 20 scope and I like it very much.

    I do reload for it.

    Allen
     
  12. RunGunIPSC

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    OK,OK. If you have to do one gun,get the 22-250. This figures you will will want to reload. I had a Remm 788 in that caliber. I had 2 loads. One loaded down to 223 velocity & one hot to get way out there. That saves your bbl. If you don't want to reload,223 only if you will be shooting a lot(more than couple hundred a yr.) Get the cheapest 24" heavy bbl Savage to save & have the best chance for good groups.
     
  13. Chango2

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    Both require working up handloads and making your own ammo for best performance...the typical stuff, case preparation, bullet seating depth just barely touching the lands, a target/varmint bullet, not a jacketed bullet, and the like. The .223 will take the most abuse re. barrel heat and abuse, tghe .22-250 comes into its own after around 250 yards. Get both, eventually and handload for both. Also, buy good brass and if you have the means (meaning time and space at home), keep brass seperated for your particular rifle and necksize only after firing. Varget ammunition works great under a big temperature range as I recall, and the bulletsmith and Sierra bullets may still offer on the phone advice for free re. loads and technique. Not sure about that any more...but might be.

    Also, the Savage rifle with the laminate, not plastic stock, is generally more accurate since the barrel is less likely to be in any bind. Get that model. Also, torque the action into the scope via pound inch wrench for consistency, and lap the scope rings. All these little things help and are not "over the top", but add to the enjoyment when one shoots an awesome group or makes "the" shot to remember.
     
  14. Brian in Oregon

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    The new synthetic Accu-Stock has an aluminum skeletal frame and the barrel does not touch the stock. But it costs more than a laminated stock.
     
  15. Chango2

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    Brian, that sounds great and very worthwhile. I have an older Savage 220 Swift single shot rifle and it is one mean and accurate varmint killer.
     
  16. Rick in Ohio

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    IF I was you DR Longshot I would look in to buying a 204 and forget the 223.
    The 204 will fly as fast and its as flat shooting as the 22-250.

    I have kill a lot coyotes and ground hogs with the 204. The 204 is also a grand round if you plan to go prairie dog/ coyote hunting out west.

    If you reload you can push a 39gr V-Max bullet 4000fps out of a 204 but the case's will not last long for you is the down side. Myself I think the 204 is about best varmint round made.
     
  17. Bob Griffith

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    22-250 all the way. The .223 is a good cartridge, but when the ranges get longer, the 22-250 will leave the 223 in the dust.
     
  18. sernv99

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    when faced with the "the sky is falling" chicken littles, as happened after Nov. 2008, you had .223 disappear from off the shelves quickly and when it did become available sporadically, there was obscene price gouging. The mall ninja Rambo wannabes were hording the stuff. It seemed to have leveled off in 2010. Might be something to factor in unless you reload or have a good supply of .223 brass.
     
  19. bodybuilder

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    I have the Axis in .223 very accurate gun but they probably are in any caliber. I like it but we only have groundhogs around here and with a good hollow point I would shoot at them up to about 400 yards. it just depends on what you like. It is like comparing the 25-06 to a .270 The .270 has a little more power but do you really need it?
     
  20. Barkingspider21

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    22-250 is a faster round BUT it will also burn out the barrel a lot sooner than the .223. Agood stainless .223 bbl should last at least 6,000 rounds befor replacement, I seriously doubt a .22-250 would last half as long before accuracy decreased to unacceptable levels. BTW I am a Master Class high power shooter,classed by the NRA. Woody Sullivan
     
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