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Shotgun engraving

Discussion in 'Shooting Related Threads' started by Ted K., May 7, 2012.

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  1. Ted K.

    Ted K. Member

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    I have a standard-issue Kolar with the usual silver grey receiver. I bought it new abut two years ago.

    Does anyone know if

    1. The receiver can be engraved at this point (I'm talking about engraving almost the whole receiver, not just adding initials or a couple of scrolls), and

    2. Can the color of the receiver be changed to dark blue (through the normal bluing process) before or after the engraving is completed?

    Thanks for any insights you might have.

    Ted K.
     
  2. skeet_man

    skeet_man Well-Known Member

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    Yes and Yes. You'll need to have the nickel stripped off first.
     
  3. Ted K.

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    Skeetman -

    Who strips the nickel - the same company that does the bluing?

    Also, am I correct that the nickel would have to be stripped off anyway in order to facilitate the engraving?

    Thanks.

    Ted K.
     
  4. skeet_man

    skeet_man Well-Known Member

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    Sorry, I don't have any leads I can provide. And yes, the nickel would have to be stripped off anyways.
     
  5. Avaldes

    Avaldes Well-Known Member

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    Part of properly engraving a receiver involves annealing the gun to bring the hardness down to a workable level. Once engraving is complete they re-harden it. If there is an issue about holding the blue, then it might be the amount of nickel or other metals in the alloy.
     
  6. Pride Engineer

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    Jeff Mainland at Kolar is the guy to talk to. He's a great guy and will sure know what, how and who to help you do your project.

    When you start heat treating metal it can move if it is not done correctly.
     
  7. jbshep

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    Bill mains can do it 765-425-6258.
    Brad
     
  8. Rods Custom Stocks

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    Bill Mains did my Kolar TS with the silver receiver and it turned out fantastic!
    I would highly recommend Bill.

    ..Rod
     
  9. Simon Engraving

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    u have a pm
     
  10. GBatch_25

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    Bill Mains did my Kolar Elite nickled receiver. It wasn't stripped and turned out very nicely. Thanks Bill.


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    Gene Batchelar
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  11. kraiza

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    Very nice. Bill did some small work for me. Great work.
     
  12. GunDr

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    Gene,

    On your Elite, it appears Bill just laid gold into the borders, that were already there. He just needed to dovetail them for the gold to stick.

    On the standard Kolar reciever, it would have nickel plating. To do anymore engraving beyond Gene's gun, the nickel would need to be stripped. Once stripped, all the metal would need to be polished prior to the engraving. You do not want to polish after the engraving, for fear of removing some engraving details.

    If any gold is laid in, then replating would not be an option. The plating will cover the gold.

    Depending on the amount of engraving, you can have it blued or French Grayed. The graying only looks good with 100% engraving coverage. As for the bluing, a polished blue will last longer than the original bead-blasted blue, but as with any blued gun, lots of handling will eventually wear those areas thin.

    You may also want to look at having the parts nitrided (like the newer engraved K-80s and Brownings. I'm not sure though how it would change the structure of the steel alloy (4140), because the nitriding involves heat-treating.

    Doug
     
  13. GBatch_25

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    Doug:
    You are correct. The gold was inlaid into the already engraved grooves. And, I think Bill did a great job.

    Gene Batchelar
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    Have Known Bill Mains for many Years...Any Work that he will do for you..You will be, More than Happy. He is an American Master of His Craft. Attached is some of His Work.Enjoy...Shoot Well..Shoot Often,with Good Friends, Bart
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