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  1. 686

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    has any one used antifreez and goten a pin hole in there shot? i tried some with #9 shot. does not get as hot as hydrolic oil, much easer to clean off, no flash fire problume. but a pin hole in the shot.
     
  2. Jim101

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    What kind of anti-freeze did you use?????



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  3. 686

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    serra
     
  4. smartass

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    What is colant? Is it a new brand of beer?
     
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    Mix a little liquid laundry soap in it. I use about a pint in 6 gallons. I also use prestone Low-Tox. It's cheaper than the sierra.


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    Be nice Anonymous
     
  7. smartass

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    I always b nise.
     
  8. Ajax

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    Normally the " pin holes" or "dimple" is a sign of the cooling solution being to thin. I have not used any Low tox--Yet.

    Jim, does this happen when you don't add the Laundry detergent? When you're running, how hot do you let the solution get?

    Thanks,
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    Ajax I figured out the soap thing early on. I was just experimenting with stuff. With the low The low tox I had some small dimples and a few very small pin holes.. I added the soap and every thing started looking better so I added more and it looked real good. If you add too much soap it will get sudsy, But the shot will still look good.

    I usually turn the cooling fan on when the catch tank gets about 150 degrees.
    I doesn't seem to be real temp sensative.




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    i used some soap in my antifreez last night. made 90 lbs #9 it looked good and no pin holes. my #9s look like 8s is that a way of life? thanks charles
     
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    686, My third batch of shot ended up to be 7's in weight (1.4 grs ), comparing to West Coast shot weight 6 % antimony. Jim Stewart told me to keep approximately 3/4 inch of open surface on the back of the ladle for proper lead flow. My fourth batch turned out at 1.3 grs for 7 1/2 shot and that was consistent weight for my 7 1/2 shot. My 8's weighed at 1.2 grs first batch then 1.18 grs for the second (West Coast 7 1/2 weigh 1.2 grs). My 8 1/2 shot weighed at 1.1 grs close to 8's west Coast. When I do shot again I will play with the angle, and raise the front end up to see if I get smaller shot. Another local shot maker using a Littleton's and another brand is getting the same weights as I am with my Better Shot maker. 10tenner
     
  12. Ajax

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    10Tenner help me understand why a pellet the diameter of a eight-.09 is not an eight no matter what it weighs?

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    Ajax, I am more concerned about pellet count, not diameter. West Coast 8 1/2 shot I get 425 count verses my 345 count with home made 8 1/2 in 7/8 oz. That is 80 shot pellets difference, and that can be a lost bird or two in the first shot of doubles. If I want the count of a 1 oz 8's, I will have to use my 8 1/2 home made shot, that is what I use for singles. 10Tenner
     
  14. Ajax

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    Well I think I understand your theory, but wouldn't that just mean the lead you are using for your home made shot has less Antimony in it? If your 7/8 oz load from West Coast has 425 pellet count in it, your bumping up the amount of total shot to give you the same amount of weight? You're loading by weight not by volume. Do I have it right?

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  15. goosecall

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    Ajax, yes wheel weights do have less antimony, West Coast shot is 6 % antimony. Before making my own shot, and still have some of another shot maker's shot, I would often have to use a 1 1/16 oz bushing to get down to 1 1/8 oz 492grs, my 1 1/8 oz bushing would throw 1 3/16 oz some were between 510-525 grs. "If your 7/8 oz load from West Coast has 425 pellet count in it, your bumping up the amount of total shot to give you the same amount of weight?" My 7/8 oz bushing is throwing approx. 10 grs under 382gr (7/8 oz) with 8 1/2 shot to get 425. I just weighed my last bags of 8 1/2 and it was .84 grs which gives me 442 count for my 7/8 oz bushing. I weighed my 8's West Coast and got 1.0 gr which would give 438 count for 1 oz. The shot charts (Allaint, Hodgen, etc.) show lower counts compared to West Coast shot. These charts must be for chilled shot, and not magnum shot? Both Littleton, and James Stewart have said if you used reclaimed shot you would get the next half size smaller shot, the antimony, or the amount of arsenic must play into the size of the shot. 10tenner
     
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    10tenner, thanks for the clarification.

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