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Shooting The Call--Not the Bird?

Discussion in 'Shooting Related Threads' started by gunner x, Oct 17, 2009.

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  1. gunner x

    gunner x TS Member

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    Very infrequently, I have overheard a Trap shooter say to fellow shooter, "That
    guy on post four, he is Shooting the Call, that's his problem."

    So my question is, What is meant by "Shooting the Call." Should one shoot the
    call. Or is it a NO-NO.

    It seems to be a Time related malady. Or is it. May be its a good thing.

    Thanks for Sharing,
    Gunnerx
     
  2. shot410ga

    shot410ga Well-Known Member

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    You better see it before you pull the trigger.
     
  3. mixer

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    Basically it's "pullbang...target" as opposed to "pull..target..bang".


    Eric
     
  4. Jawhawker

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    My deffenition would be that the shooter was moving his gun barrel immediately upon calling for the target and before target recognition was established.
     
  5. grnberetcj

    grnberetcj Active Member

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    In the military, it is reduced to it's most simplistic form:

    Target acquisition before the weapon is discharged.

    i.e., No visual target observed, no weapon discharged!!

    No sense wasting shells and money on shooting holes in the sky.

    Curt
     
  6. ivanhoe

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    Shooting the target is simple moving the gun on the call not on the seeing of the target.

    You should not move the gun until the target has past the end of your gun.

    Bob Lawless
     
  7. Old Cowboy

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    AKA....anticipating the target, often followed by "LOST"
     
  8. phirel

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    It is moving the gun before clearly seeing the target. This seems to be a greater problem for shooters who hold a high gun.

    There is one system that is very difficult to master that allows the gun to be moved before seeing the target. It is usually called a "live gun" method. At one time Daro Handy excelled with this method. It involves holding a very low gun, then moving to gun up toward the house and timing the gun movement and the call so that the gun is just above the house when the bird comes out. Daro used this method when targets were hand pulled and he turned down many birds as slow pulls. I tried this for five shots, I could not make it work.

    Pat Ireland
     
  9. stokinpls

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    Isn't that what they mean by "recon by fire"?
     
  10. Jawhawker

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    Pat, Roger Smith was similarily effective with such method.
     
  11. miketmx

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    I find that when you are accustomed to clubs that have automatic traps and then you go to a club that has old hand set traps and CVR microphones, you will find your sense of timing goes out the window. I don't know if this is caused by the position of the trap in the house or a combination of the CVR and circuitry in the hand trap. I have trouble with targets that get the jump on me. If I slow down my Call, I can get slow pulls. When I have a more aggressive Call, I can shoot too fast for my ability and jump at the bird.
     
  12. Old Cowboy

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    stokinpls, "recon by fire" don't work too good when all you got's a single shot.....lol
     
  13. Jawhawker

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    Rogers main secret however was the laser implant he had which allowed additional target breaking capabilities without detection. Roger was lucky that I retained that knowledge without ever revealing such till this time.... Amazing the remarkable inventions they have in the airo industry.
     
  14. short shucker

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    The first time I witnessed this, it caught me off guard.

    The shooter called for the targets and imediately pulled the trigger and went to the second target. The problem was that no 1st target ever appeared. When I looked at him his reply was "It's supposed to be there". I just chuckeled and went about the business of breaking targets.

    I can't do it, but he was pretty good doing it that away.

    ss
     
  15. Jawhawker

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    short shucker, that sounds more of spot shooting.
     
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    Martin, I think you may have revealed some classfied information...I'm sure the black helicopters are on the way...
     
  17. short shucker

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    pheasantmaster,

    Sorry, that's what I thought that y'all were discussing. Now that I reread the posts, I can see that I was wrong. Oh well, it's not the first time:)

    ss
     
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