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Shell feed, mod's for Spolar & P/W

Discussion in 'Reloading' started by creeker, Dec 29, 2016.

  1. creeker

    creeker Active Member

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    I had requests for shell feed mod info from shooter's, so here is what I came up with.The pic's show a non breakable,flexible tube and wooden shell feed ram's made from compressed MDF,called a Victorian Plinth.These 2 items were purchased at Home Depot.The other clear plastic inserts shown were purchased on the web.Not shown is a 12ga tube which is currently being used on my loader.The drop in inserts go into the mod'd large tube and them you clamp,adjust and tweak it to your desired height.The 12ga feed ram shown has
    had over 2-33 gal pails loaded with it and the only failure was some dirt showing.The costs are minimal and are
    fairly easy to make. P1000620.JPG P1000621.JPG
     
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  2. mike-sid

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    Can you post pictures all in place? Or video of it running? Good work
     
  3. Trapshooter

    Trapshooter Well-Known Member

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    I'd love to see videos.
     
  4. Trapshooter

    Trapshooter Well-Known Member

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    watch this.
     
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  5. Aircooled6racer

    Aircooled6racer Active Member

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    Hello: Looks like you have it all figured out now. I still need to hook up my PW feeder on my Spolar. Would love to get the feeder working for 410 and 28 gauge since that is what I am mostly shooting now. Thanks, Eric
     
  6. creeker

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    Trapshooter,it looks like you have had a broken wing on one of the shell drop tubes a very common occurrence,with the P/W tube,they will break,being so brittle,if you use the tube shown in the Posting and mod it right you won't have that problem,anymore,I have been to that movie,a couple of times,but no more.If there was a video,the only thing you would see would be a duplication of what happens with the shell feeder,no more no less?I was glad also to get rid of that black carbon shell feed ram,as it always was getting the shell feed ram dirty as it worked back and forth,I haven't had to clean the shell feed assembly since using the one made from compressed MDF.The dirt on the 12ga ram in the pic is from lube that I had put on the chain feed
    bolt and some gets transmitted from the back and forth operation,to the wooden ram,the bottom of the ram stays clean.
     
  7. bigbore613

    bigbore613 Banned User Banned TS Supporters

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    I think you are going to cause a bunch of people to spend money ! LoL
     
  8. creeker

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    Actually bigbore613,the costs to do these mod's can be quite minimal,if so desired?I started to do the ga conversions with 3/4" copper pipe's for the 12 ga and pvc for the other gauges and I got them to work after goofing with them, to fit?The clear plastic tubes were the most expensive part as I bought most of them over the web and for clear plastic and proper pvc strength, you get to pay for it?
    the .410 middle insert tube is from Dillon Reloading,.45 cal feed tube,I wouldn't have bought the clear tubes if I could see inside the other tubes?It's a trial and error fit to do these mod's and if you take it one step at a time you will eventually get to where you want to be and besides you are out to please you and no one else?
     
  9. bigbore613

    bigbore613 Banned User Banned TS Supporters

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    Sorry to have not stated I mean buying an autodrive and a shell feeder after watching the video, not the cost of your mods, they look great. LoL
     
  10. creeker

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    FYI,the shell feeder is not offered anymore for the Spolar ,from P/W,so one would have to mod a lower feed assembly to fit the Spolar loader in sta1,you can buy a Dillon case feeder and adapt it to the Spolar,my case feeder is a Dillon with a P/W lower
    feed assembly[ now discontiued] and it is mod'd to take 12,20,28 and .410 shells.
     
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  11. bigbore613

    bigbore613 Banned User Banned TS Supporters

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    I can just see all the drooling, watching that video. Nice work on your mods.
     
  12. John Henry

    John Henry Well-Known Member

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    So all you need now is an auto wad-feeder, and you can fill the hoppers, and go watch football while the press loads your shells for the next week!

    Pretty cool!!
     
  13. shot410ga

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    Nice job....Looks like you've got it down pat.
     
  14. creeker

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    Yes 410ga, everything works for all the ga's except 16ga,which I don't have or load anyway,but IMHO,after loading the 12ga with the mod's,I am very confident that the 12ga set up will load the 16ga without much to do?What actually led to doing these conversions was all the trouble that I had occur with P/W shell feeder and parts breaking ,jamming,bending of the shell feeder post and the mounting bracket coming just a tad bit loose,which would throw a sporatic adjustment trouble that will drive you
    nuts?After solving all these problems,I learned so much about the trouble shooting,that I decided to go ahead and see what else will happen and went ahead one by one, to get to the end of the trail?It was not,a turn key operation,by far?Also,when you use a
    powered device to operate the shell feeder,you will learn more about the shell feeder,than you would,doing the handle pull method,which is where you should start out, before you go powered by device?
     
  15. backfencer

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    Really neato! Thanks for sharing!
     
  16. creeker

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    Thanks, for all the comments.I can't tell you how many times that I had to try and fit things and pull down the assembly and try and try again,I could do it in my sleep now.The most problems that I had were with the STS shells being made from brass and with only the small anvil in the primer to get picked up by the magnet,in the shell seating post and with the slightly longer STS case,sometimes the shell seating ram would push the STS shell right off and out of the shell seating assembly,using a hydro unit.Not so,with the Gun club shells,the steel holds them into position without failure.The
    somewhat longer STS once fired shell would sometimes clip the end of the shell and deform it a bit in sta 1.Using a twice loaded STS shell with the mouth more closed,no problem.The P/W assembly
    for the Spolar,has to have the shell go up into the die very exactly,[ vertically].A slightly bent or canted metal or brass base will cause feeding problems also.Using a manual handle pull method,you can catch things before they happen,but with a powered device,you need to be watching, or you will crunch parts.I know now,why people were having problems using a powered device and usually were
    running away from them, or selling the shell feed assembly,but this is not necessary if you take extra care and learn what you have at hand, patience,is the key?
     
  17. creeker

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    Here's a couple of shell plates that I made at home, that can be used to reload your shells.I went Lowes and bought a 4x8' sheet of 1/4" MDF board and had them cut it in half with the panel saw,for transport ease.[ about 10 bucks out the door].I cut the diameter to fit the shell feeder housing.I took a shell and stood it upright on the edge of the cut panel.I then took a black sharpe marker and
    went around the base of the shell to mark it.I then added no more than 30% more to the marked line to be cut.I then used a scroll saw and under cut to the marked line to be cut.I then finished the cut with a Dremel tool and sanding disk,to finish the procedure.I then tried it in the shell feeder housing to fit and tried with an empty shell to see if it would drop through the hole,into the shell feed tube?
    I then went on to cut all of the shell feed plate holes, to finish the job.I went to ACE hardware and bought a 5/16" diameter sleeve and cut a slot in it and glued it in place on the bottom of the shell feed plate with a wooden spacer added to elevate the plate, P1000632.JPG P1000633.JPG a bit.I added the handle on top and also the two brad nailed shell tumbler's,on the face of the shell plate.The shell plate worked perfectly and dropped to the last shell.This method can be use for metallic cartridges also.This method will save you buying a shell plate new and you can DIY,for a small amount of money?