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Senate Republicans May Not Try to Repeal Obamacare

Discussion in 'Politics, Elections & Legislation' started by wireguy, Oct 20, 2010.

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  1. wireguy

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    Senate Republicans May Not Try to Repeal Obamacare

    Posted by Erick Erickson

    Tuesday, October 19th at 10:24AM EDT


    I have told you this before and I will tell you this again. Unless you elect Pat Toomey, Marco Rubio, Ken Buck, Ron Johnson, Rand Paul, Mike Lee, Sharron Angle, and Joe Miller, we will never see Obamacare repealed.

    Senator Judd Gregg is up today saying that repeal is not recommended.

    Sen. Judd Gregg (N.H.), the top Republican on the Senate Budget Committee, said that repealing the new healthcare reform law — or looking to defund it — were not good options.

    “I don’t think starving or repealing is probably the best approach here,” Gregg said on the Fox Business Network. “You basically go in and restructure it.”

    Here’s the thing — Senate leadership staff will say this is just Judd Gregg, who is retiring, and not reflective of the Senate GOP leadership. There is a problem though.

    In the past several weeks, there have been several closed door, off the record meetings of high dollar donors getting briefings from various elected officials, including several Senators. In each case the donors have been “reassured” by the Senators present that they have no intention of repealing Obamacare, just restructuring it.

    The Senators seemed to think the high dollar donors were not kooks like those tea party activists and would understand the practical need to just “restructure” instead of “repeal.” Unfortunately, the Senators have badly misread the donors.

    In any event, you can be sure that Judd Gregg is not speaking out of turn and is not a lone wolf on this issue. His view reflects that of the Senate GOP leadership despite their protestations to the contrary.

    Again, if you haven’t sent money to Joe Miller, Sharron Angle, Ken Buck, Pat Toomey, Rand Paul, Ron Johnson, Mike Lee, and Marco Rubio, you better. Repeal of Obamacare depends on them.

    UPDATED: It is worth noting that neither Mitch McConnell nor Lamar Alexander have signed on as co-sponsors to Jim DeMint’s legislation that would repeal Obamacare.
     
  2. kfbagt

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    this is all speculation and in-fact sounds like a fund raiser by the tea part candidates to me. I would say if you believe this article then you're part of the problem anyway.
     
  3. Setterman

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    Not so kfbagt. We have already been warned that the Health Care package will be much more expensive than originally professed. It was a political con job. Our company health insurance has increased 35% just this year. When I asked why, I was told by our broker that the insurance companies are preparing for Obamacare.
    WTF!!! Now we know why he pushed it through first, and quickly. His popularity was high and he knew the longer it was in discussion, the more facts would come out.

    In reality we have no idea how this is going to shake out, and that is just the reason to stop it. It is idiotic to continue down this path when our politicians didn't even read the bill, let alone determine how to fund it. Remember? They said it would create a savings over time. Now we hear it will cost more than our current system and probably decrease the quality of service.

    Stop it, defund it, or do whatever till we get a real definition of how it will work and what it really is.

    If you know...please tell us, because our politicians sure as hell don't know!
     
  4. kfbagt

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    i didnt say obamacare was good, or that it wont get repealed, defunded, etc.

    i said that this article is all speculation by the author who wrote it. It is based on the author's opinion. he says what he thinks leaders will say when asked about it.

    Your rates didnt go up because of obamacare. your rates, and mine for that matter, went up because health care and medicine costs are up, and because the economy is so bad the amount of bad debt incurred by hospitals is through the roof, causing rates to go up even more. its a terrible cycle.

    your rates have gone up every year for the last 10 years, or at least mine have. there was no obamacare then.

    if we have to provide all of things in obamacare for everyone in the US, those of us that actually pay premiums wont be able to afford it, so..... like you, i wish it would stop. but believing this political rheteric about how only the tea party can save us is bull. i dont need someone telling me that only Sarah Palin can save me. no offense but if she is my hope, id rather take my chances alone.
     
  5. ou.3200

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    Strange, I don't see any mention of Sarah Palin in that article. It does mention the Tea Party but only to set it apart from the "high dollar donors" who the author is saying want Obamacare repealed. Hardly an appeal for money by the Tea Party.

    The best chance to end Obamacare is for one of the lawsuits to result in it being declared unconstitutional. Even if Congress passes a bill to repeal it Obama will veto the bill.
     
  6. Setterman

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    I don't think Sarah Palin is our girl either, but what she and the Tea Party have done, is get these goof ball lifer politicians to pay notice to some pissed off voters.

    We had 2 major hospital expansion projects ready to go till Obamacare was passed, then both were suspended. What does that tell ya? Hospitals are scared to death of the government mandates in the health care plan. To this day, they still don't know. Neither do both small and large businesses, and thats one of the reasons we will not see a recovery soon. The screwed up banking world is the other problem.

    Lets hope either the Republicans or the Tea party come up with a conservative contender for the 2012 election, and the voters hold the politicians feet to fire for an extended period of time.

    Did you ever wonder why no one can get a good answer for the rate increases when we have 12% unemplyment right now? Claims should be down, not up.
     
  7. kfbagt

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    well it was subtle, but this is where i got the idea that they were asking for money -

    "Again, if you haven’t sent money to Joe Miller, Sharron Angle, Ken Buck, Pat Toomey, Rand Paul, Ron Johnson, Mike Lee, and Marco Rubio, you better. Repeal of Obamacare depends on them."

    what about high unemployment would make claims go down? people who cant work go to the dr for free, that makes the write-offs at the hospital higher. that raises rates. That means you and I get to pay higher premiums.

    i didnt mean to argue, i actually wish obamacare would go away. I just want a responsible, rational plan to take its place and right now we dont have one.
     
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    I talked to Jason Altmire about a month ago and he was telling me that it will be easier to defund it and that is where he is going with it. Bulge.
     
  9. ricks1

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    Well there is one thing for sure ITS going to change. Many voted for CHANGE ITS comeing
    got a letter from my health insurance co. Said that with the new health care law they need to REVIEW my policy
    WE GOT CHANGE
     
  10. Brian in Oregon

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    I don't care who is behind it, flush it before the rest of us go down the toilet with it.
     
  11. Barry C. Roach

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    Join the Tea Party. Look how much havoc they rained down on Washington in just one year. Both the Republican party and the Dems are COUNTING on time to erase what positive effects the Tea Party accomplished.

    Neither party wants us to succeed so they can go back to robbing us blind and maintain their DC club.

    Don't let the Tea Party fade away. The fight has just begun citizens.
     
  12. Frank C

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    tread easy till AFTER the bloodbath elections in a few weeks THEN worry about this POS legislation. Note that the Dems have Illegal aliens in Washington State going door to door trying to get out the layabout vote......we don't need to awaken a sleeping (no pun intended) giant layabout vote
     
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    They will repeal it when WE TELL them to repeal it. Barry C. is right. We all need to join the Tea Party. The frustration that builds up here at TS.Com needs to be aimed at those elitist Buttwipes in DC. We are the voice of America.
     
  14. Big Jack

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    Once they have a money pit on the books, they never quit digging deeper. To repeal it would put us back where we were. Good? Who knows. The insurance companies have restructured to take advantage of the new opportunity the gov't. created for them. Now that they figured how much they can profit they are backing the politicos that will keep them in the BIG PROFIT side of the ledger. As long as big business and unions are able to buy votes to control our government we are doomed to this crap.
     
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    If the Supremes declare the "purchase mandate unconstitutional the entire funding for healthcare, phony though it is, will be turned upside down. The insurance costs will skyrocket for everyone (think 100% - 200%). Healthcare reform will cost billions more than was projected and those projections were lies!

    Such a ruling would not make Obamacare unconstitutional but only the forced purchase of insurance. Can you imagine what shenanigans they will come up with to fill that financial gap?

    Health care must be reformed but the Democratic Socialists in the present Congress have shown that they are not the ones to do it. Also, sweeping reforms such as Obamacare usually throw out the baby with the bathwater. It is tempting to try to do this all at once, in a single grand swoop but that will not work when dealing with such a huge a complex system. You cannot pick a day on which everything stops and starts off in a different direction.

    We may be electing a new Congress on Nov. 2 and the new memberas should realize that this is not what the American people want. How many of you think they will?

    The America we knew is in its final act. Too bad but it was great while it lasted. I can hear Maurice Chevalier singing, "I'm so glad I'm not young anymore!"
     
  16. cubancigar2000

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    We just need to vote out all the incumbents regardless of political affiliation
     
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    There was so much other garbage in that 2300 pages it was a sin. If this nation survives it will go down in history as the worst piece of legislation ever conceived.

    The fact that there had to be dozens of back room deals, bribes, baksheesh, and trickery testifies to the onerous fetid stink of the bill.

    ANY Senator or Rejpresentative that voted for this piece of legislative trash should be fired ASAP. And any one of them who tries to go chameleon and change his stance should have a sudden need for extra fire insurance.

    Tar and Feathers would be good.

    HM
     
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