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Selling reloads?

Discussion in 'Shooting Related Threads' started by 635 G, Jul 5, 2010.

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  1. 635 G

    635 G Well-Known Member

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    There are a few people I know who sell their own reloads to fellow shooters. Are these people exposing themselves to mega law suits in case of a catostrophic gun failure?

    Phil Berkowitz
     
  2. Bob_K

    Bob_K Well-Known Member

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    Yes.
     
  3. Unknown1

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    They are also doing business as unlicensed ammunition manufacturers without the necessary permits, papers and blessing of the Government. Illegal manufacture, distribution and sale of ammunition is bound to viewed as a really dumb thing to do.

    MK
     
  4. Shooting Coach

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    Don't forget the 11% Federal Excise Tax. Another problem, besides Civil Liability.

    As a Type VII FFL holder, Firearms and Ammunition manufacturer, it is hardly worth the trouble. I have developed and sell ammo not otherwise available, and load some configurations not easily available. Would I go through the paperwork mess again, knowing what I know now?

    Uhhh,,,, I'll get back to you on that.
     
  5. Leo

    Leo Well-Known Member

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    I shared loaded rounds with friends. I never took cash but bartered for bags of shot or primers or something. Just friends helping friends. I would never put my name on anything or take money for it. I sure wouldn't do that with strangers.
     
  6. Quack Shot

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    Even giving them away could be illegal. Reloading can be done for your own use. Once you "distribute" them to other people, you can be in deep doo doo, whether you sold, traded, or gave them away. Then there is the liability angle. You could find yourself defending against a major lawsuit, whether it was your fault or not.
     
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    320090T Well-Known Member

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    Too much libality, I won't even give you a reload. I shoot reloads but my extras are factory. You borrow a shell, you get a factory shell.
     
  8. Recoil Sissy

    Recoil Sissy Well-Known Member

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    I am very confident about my reloads but I consider them the same as parachutes. I'll pack mine, you pack yours. On those rare occasions I shoot a gun I don't own, I only use factory bullets.

    sissy
     
  9. Ljutic111

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    But you give them to your wife, children and grand kids without a thought ???
     
  10. Ed in MD

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    Wow,

    A number of times I've handed one of my spare shells (reloads) to someone on the line who "ran out" or had a blooper, etc. Never considered the liability issue. I'll carry factory ammo on my belt as spares from now on. Thank you all for this thread!!
     
  11. halfmile

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    I trade 'em for beers after league.

    Seriously, I do give a box of shells once in a while. I will continue to do so.

    We had to shoot off for the league championship once, and one of our guys had no extra shells along, so he borrowed a box.

    This does happen occasionally, and I would hesitate to see everyone getting all anal retentive about it.

    HM
     
  12. wayneo

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    Private persons can sell or give away their reloads in Indiana as long as:

    You have paid the state sells tax on the components.

    You are not in the ammunition manufacturing business.

    You make no profits on resale.

    You are not liable if anything happens. It was non for profit. Its buyer beware. You couldn't prove if it was the reloads or gun anyhow. Read all the K-Gun and CG blowup threads.

    Wayne
     
  13. Recoil Sissy

    Recoil Sissy Well-Known Member

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    ljutic111:

    If your comment was directed at me, I don't give reloads to anyone - friends or family.

    sissy
     
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    Wayne

    You need to add, as long as the ATF does not find out.....

    ATF trumps State Law.
     
  15. fishguts

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    320090T.......thats a good idea, I'll carry some new shells for extra's, no one ever seems to have any.

    Wayne
     
  16. wayneo

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    221, if your not in the business of selling reloaded ammo, and the ammo you have reloaded and decided to sell....If it's not armor piercing and non-for profit, the ATF has no jurisdiction. State laws supersede.

    Wayne
     
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    <EM>"Q: Is a person who reloads ammunition required to be licensed as a manufacturer?
    Yes, if the person engages in the business of selling or distributing reloads for the purpose of livelihood and profit. No, if the person reloads only for personal use.

    [18 U.S.C. 922(a) (i) and 923(a), 27 CFR 478.41]"</EM>


    To me this says no.....Personal means you or I only......not your buddy.

    Even favors can be interpreted as profit or gain.
     
  18. Ljutic111

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    Sissy , My statement was in general about those oppose this but who give their shells to family members . I would do the same as I have faith in what I reload . Can`t say the same about others who reload .
     
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    ata john has it right!


    You guys are to scared of the black helicopters hovering over your house!

    You cant live life worried bout some guy falling over a crack in your sidewalk and it henders you from having the party...just to many reasons to say "to much liability".
     
  20. grnberetcj

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    One good thing about paranoia....you're never alone!!

    Curt
     
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