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Selling a Gun at the Grand

Discussion in 'Shooting Related Threads' started by TennTrap, Jul 24, 2009.

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  1. TennTrap

    TennTrap Member

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    Question:
    Can an individual sell a long gun to another individual both from different state in a third state (Ill. as an example) if they go through an FFL?

    I understand one way to do it would be to transfer (sell) the gun to the dealer. Then the dealer could sell it to the buyer. Is that the only way that it could be done?

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  2. ou.3200

    ou.3200 Well-Known Member

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    Go to the BATFE website and read the rules. You only need to get a FFL license holder to do the transfer for you.
     
  3. BigM-Perazzi

    BigM-Perazzi Well-Known Member

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    It would need to go thru an ffl...he should know the procedure...
     
  4. grnberetcj

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    Cash...one hand to the other. FFL?

    hahaha!

    Curt
     
  5. Auctioneer

    Auctioneer Well-Known Member

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    The paper work for seling a gun at the Grand is very simple and fast. The color of the paper work is green how much geen paper work depends on the grade of gun.
     
  6. BAD 303

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    If you are meeting an individual in person in Illinois you only need to get their FOID number for your records. If neither of you are from Illinois just trade the green backs and move on. Illinois is as close to a socialist state as their is in this country. Thus the reason for all the ridiculous laws mandated from the corrupt Chicago scum. Can you say Burris,Blagovich,Ryan,Durbin and the most decorated Hussein. The area seems to breed scum and then secrete it downstate.
     
  7. ou.3200

    ou.3200 Well-Known Member

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    Selling without FFL transfer is bad advice. It is a felony to sell to someone who resides in another state without doing the FFL transfer. Not worth the risk.
     
  8. ou.3200

    ou.3200 Well-Known Member

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    I know of a lot of people who have been caught up in BATF arrest situations for illegally transferring a gun. Notorious examples are Ruby Ridge and Waco,both BATF cases. I don't personally know of any who were convicted of selling a trap gun to an out of state individual at a shoot. That doesn't mean it hasn't happened or that it is legal and risk free to do so. There is a big difference between complying with the law and not being caught. I don't think you or anyone here wants to be the test case.
     
  9. J.Woolsey

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    I believe Ruby Ridge was a case of entrapment where he was convinced to saw a shotgun barrel off by BATF agents, if my memory serves me correctly. I don't believe it had a thing to do with gun sales. J.W.
     
  10. grnberetcj

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    Don't ya just love paranoia?

    Curt
     
  11. ou.3200

    ou.3200 Well-Known Member

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    He sold the gun to the BATF informant. It was an illegal gun sale. Don't think for a moment that BATF would have any sympathy for a trapshooter if they caught him. The statute of limitations in the Federal system is 5 years. A long time to worry if the gun you bought or sold is traced by law enforcement for some reason. No paranoia here, just stating the facts. It is not that hard to follow the law. Why take a chance?
     
  12. Hap MecTweaks

    Hap MecTweaks Well-Known Member

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    J.W., the man was paid extra to saw off a tad more than the legal length. I can see a whole lot of people truly needing money do the same thing. The aftermath was shameful conduct by a lot of people doing their "jobs"??

    Curt, you nailed it!

    Hap
     
  13. trapshootin hippie

    trapshootin hippie Well-Known Member

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    ou3200, tell us about Waco and how selling a shotgun fits into the scenario.
     
  14. ou.3200

    ou.3200 Well-Known Member

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    The citing of Ruby Ridge and Waco is to point out that BATF has in the past created cases by having informants or undercover agents doing buys of firearms.

    The original question here was:

    "Can an individual sell a long gun to another individual both from different state in a third state (Ill. as an example) if they go through an FFL?"

    The answer is: Yes

    The advice given above to ignore the law was and is bad advice.

    To see some horror stories about the reach of the Federal Government take a look at the links in the bigdogtx post at:

    http://www.trapshooters.com/cfpages/sthread.cfm?threadid=193001&Messages=11
     
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