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Discussion in 'Shooting Related Threads' started by lilboss1970, Aug 2, 2009.

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  1. lilboss1970

    lilboss1970 Member

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    Is there a rule that you have to wear shooting glasses at a ATA registered shoot? Is this an ata rule or the individual club? Thanks for the help.
     
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    skeet_man Well-Known Member

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    ATA, check the rule book
     
  3. lilboss1970

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    That's why I'm asking, because I can't find it.
     
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    If it is an ATA rule, then why do few trapshooters at the ATA shoots I've been at not wear them? Sure this isn't a local club rule?
     
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    ATA Rule Book. Section IV Section I. Safety Paragraph 16:

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    "All persons including competitors, referee/scorers and trap personnel must wear appropriate eye and hearing protection while on the Trap field. Failure to comply may result in disqualification." End Quote:


    Enforcement is up to club personnel and or shoot management.

    Eric
     
  6. lilboss1970

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    Thanks, I must of scanned over that at least three times and didn't catch it.
     
  7. halfmile

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    ALL shooting at our club requires eye and ear protection. we have some clear safety glasses available for people who need them.

    We had one fellow quit the league and never came back to the club because he "didn't like people telling him what to do".

    Well, I don't think the club would like paying off on a lawsuit, either.

    A good shooter, but a bad attitude.

    HM
     
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    If the rule is "on the books" at your club, that's not enough. You have to enforce it.

    Heaven forbid, if someone loses eyesight and they're not wearing glasses, the law doesn't care if you had it posted in the clubhouse. They'll ask why you didn't have people making sure everyone was following the rules.

    Those folks who say, "I don't want to wear glasses, and if I lose an eye, its my fault, not the club's," are the first who will be swayed by some lawyer who says they can make a lot of money if they sue the club.
     
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    In my lay opinion, its worded poorly. "must wear/appropriate" - "may result"... too subjective and allows wiggle room. Who determines what's appropriate and if its mandatory, the wording should be "shall result".

    At our range, if you don't have eye or hearing protection (your choice), you don't shoot - period.

    regards to all,

    Jay
     
  10. Bruce Specht

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    Why wouldn't you wear them?
     
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    Rain drops...
     
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    Well I wear a +6 perscription hard lenses (contacts) and the additional refraction causes me sight problems, especially at night. I think like anything, if it does not endanger or bother others you should have the right to do what you choose. You stand a much higher risk of dying in a car wreck on the way to the club than you do having your eye damaged shooting trap! Whats next....not letting people drive!! Life is a calucated risk period! We as individuals make choices everyday based on risk, and I for one do not need someone else making those decisons for me!
     
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    Logndog,

    You're right, no one can tell you what to do but they can prevent you from shooting at their facility if you refuse to follow their rules.

    Remember the club is the deep pocket and it's a given that your lawyer will be on them like white on rice in case of an unfortunate accident. If you don't like rules then don't play the game.


    Eric
     
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    logndog

    "You stand a much higher risk of dying in a car wreck on the way to the club than you do having your eye damaged shooting trap! Whats next....not letting people drive!!"

    Spoken like someone that truly has tunnel vision. Try to understand that if you get killed or injured driving to the Shoot. The ATA/Club is not responsible for that accident.

    If you are injured at a club shooting an event the Club can be sued for your stupidity. If it is an ATA sanctioned they also can be sued.

    "We as individuals make choices everyday based on risk, and I for one do not need someone else making those decisions for me!"

    Then I would suggest if feel it is your right to make the decision for yourself that you decide to shoot in some other Association's sanctioned shoots As I am not ready to maybe have to pay a large assessment to my dues to pay a lawsuit so you can make your own decisions. At my club you would be escorted to the end of the clubs property and ask not to return until you conform to the rule like the rest.

    Bob Lawless
     
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    I have been hit by a hard piece of carbon from a ported gun next to me. I know for sure I would have had a problem if it landed in my eye.

    Thatq's why I use blinders for trap, in addition to the visual assistance.

    HM
     
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    Shooting without safety glasses is just plain stupid. If you think debris flying out of the action of a gun is a rare thing, you haven't shot enough rounds. I haven't been in any car wrecks but I have been hit with frags from shotguns, pistols, rifles, and muzzle loaders. My uncorrected vision is currently 20/20 and I like that so much that I won't risk an injury. Besides, the correct shooting glasses will improve your game not hinder it.

    I also don't have a problem reminding people to put on their glasses when they are at the range. (even spectators) It is possible to do this without being an Ahole, if somebody doesn't have their glasses with them we provide a loaner pair.

    Every shooting sport that I know of requires this valuable piece of PPE.
     
  17. 100after9

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    I guess all who don't wear them have never seen a reciever blow upin front of another shooter. All you would have to do is see it one time and you wouldn't ever question this law. The young man this happened to sure is glad he had his on!!!
     
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    Following up on Bill's comment, I get on my soapbox and tell everyone that comes in my range... get the largest, impact resistant, lenses to cover as much the eye orbit as possibe. Its your choice, but if you want to wear those low profile "skinny" sunglasses... hey - its your eyes, but thin plastic lenses just don't cut it.

    Jay
     
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    I know what happens when you blow a primer in an old Winchester 97 . I had on shooting glasses only because i thought it look,t cool ?
     
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