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Discussion in 'Uncategorized Threads' started by targetshooter, Dec 19, 2007.

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  1. targetshooter

    targetshooter Member

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    Has there been any progress on the new club/
     
  2. grammie

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    Keep bumping it to the top,,and I'm sure Jim will reply.......

    AKA Grammie.....
     
  3. gotbass

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  4. ffwildcat

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    In a word - NO.

    See the thread "It's Not There Anymore". Jim gives some hints as to the difficulties.
     
  5. zap

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    Sadly, Nothing from the almighty!!!yet they still want membership money !!!!!!and any other contributions to the "club" It still remains a sequestered group of folks who expouse one thing and dont have ,sadly anything going!!! I sadly would support anything they had in the offering if it were not for the existing "offercers " of this non existant club. Reason being they never truly were up front with the membership and led them to believe all was going along just fine! what in the hell is the matter with folks that want to shoot and have a venue to do so and still keep the same lame officers in the club. its the typical sacto calif. b.s. that has turned the city into a pile of crap! I would support the efforts to re establish a new club in a heart beat if they woke up and members realized that the long term incumbent officers were not their best friends and booted them out!!! and got some fresh , new blood in there to start a new!
     
  6. coyote_198

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    HEY NITRO 27 WHY DON"T YOU TELL US HOW YOU REALLY FEEL?
     
  7. Dickgshot

    Dickgshot Well-Known Member

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    The Sacramento Trap club was an anomaly, like the Lincoln Park Traps in Chicago. Right off the expressway, totally visible, and, of course, with a long tradition.
    You can't repeat that anymore, and with the economy, gas prices, shell prices, etc. this is no time to venture into a new club. The support needs to go to the existing clubs, like Coon Creek and Sacramento Valley, and help them stay in business. Simple economics is going to put more clubs out of business by far than all the anti-gun, environmental, and housing interests combined.
     
  8. Guy

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    NITRO 27: You know what's sad? It's a few of you bellyachers, whiners, and shit-stirrers that just can't seem to help yourselves.....you sit outside and cry and bitch about everything.....and offer no support or involvement.

    If you would take it upon yourself, and attend just a single Board meeting, you might just have a clue about what is going on. Better still, we have an open seat on the Board.....why don't you show up and guide us with your wisdom. But I gotta tell you, with an attitude like yours, it's doubtful you'll convince anyone to jump on your boat.

    Shake yourself.

    Guy Hungerford, Director Sac Trap
     
  9. Hap MecTweaks

    Hap MecTweaks Well-Known Member

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    dickgtax, I feel your accessment is spot on guy! A lot of the shooters I've been talking with say they plan on cutting back on small shoots, concentrating on saving for the biggies. Small clubs have always been the life blood of ATA and without them, where does that leave us, the ATA? The top shooters surely can't pick up enough of that kind of slack by shooting even more targets? These 2000 target shoots in 8-10 days will also feel the fallout effect from less shooters sooner or later. Hap
     
  10. stokinpls

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    LA Times - Must be gospel.

    "http://www.latimes.com/news/local/la-me-growth20dec20,0,4381660.story?coll=la-home-center

    More flee state than move in

    By Sharon Bernstein and Paloma Esquivel, Los Angeles Times Staff Writers
    December 20, 2007

    California's population continued to grow modestly in the last fiscal year despite a significant exodus of residents to other states, according to a state report released Wednesday.

    The annual study by the Department of Finance showed that 89,000 more people moved out of California than moved here from elsewhere in the United States. California's population did grow in fiscal 2007 -- but the growth rested on births and the arrival of more than 200,000 immigrants from other countries.

    If you've lost your job here and maybe your house, maybe you're thinking that there are better prospects out there in other states.
    — Howard Roth, chief economist for the California Department of Finance

    The shift dovetails with the state's weakening economy and is most likely related, said Howard Roth, chief economist for the Department of Finance.

    Those who left, Roth said, were fleeing an economy in which just 5,800 jobs per month were created -- down from more than 20,000 per month the previous year. Jobs were lost in housing, finance, construction and other sectors, and key indicators like the number of automobiles sold were also down, he said.

    People who are leaving the state, he said, are probably doing so because they believe they'll do better elsewhere.

    "If you're someone in finance and you haven't already been laid off . . . or if you've lost your job here and maybe your house, maybe you're thinking that there are better prospects out there in other states," he said.

    The trend toward reduced "domestic migration" -- which began in 2005 and has increased dramatically since -- is a sharp turnaround from nearly a decade of sustained population growth.

    While the state lost many residents during the economic downturn of the 1990s, people had been steadily moving to California from other states since 1999.

    But once the housing bubble burst, the trend reversed.

    The story was repeated in Southern California, where every county except Riverside and San Diego saw a decrease in "domestic migration."

    In Los Angeles County alone, nearly 115,000 fewer residents came from other states and California counties than moved to other states and counties. The county ended up with a total increase in population thanks to 91,000 births and an influx of 70,000 residents from foreign countries. (The county now has roughly 10,294,000 residents).

    Since 2000, about 500,000 more people have left Los Angeles County than have moved here from other parts of the U.S. and California, the figures show.

    Orange County also had a modest increase of about 23,000 people overall, though there was a deficit of about 22,000 residents among those who moved to or from other parts of the U.S. (Orange County's population is 3,098,000). The picture in Ventura County was similar: an increase of 7,700 people overall to a total population of 827,000, but a deficit of 3,100 among people who moved domestically.

    Many of those who left Los Angeles, Orange and San Diego counties moved to the Inland Empire, according to economist Roth. Riverside County, for example, showed a net increase in the number of people moving in from other parts of the state or country, as well as an increase of 61,000 people overall. Still, the county's overall growth rate of 3.3% was slower than the year before, when the population climbed by 4.26%.

    The slowdown in Inland Empire growth will probably get worse next year as regional housing sales continue to slow, said John Husing, an economist who studies Inland Empire counties.

    The number of houses sold in Riverside and San Bernardino counties in the first quarter of 2007 was about half the number sold in the first quarter of 2006, he said.

    "The slowdown in the housing market attacks the fundamental strength of the Inland economy," Husing said. "I personally think we're heading into a recession here."

    The report placed the state's population as of July 1 at 37,771,000 people. It added about 438,000 residents in the previous year.

    Linda Gage, the state demographer who put together this year's report, said officials started with census figures, and then used such information as school registration, new birth certificates, driver's license applications and tax records to determine how many people have moved to the state and where they came from.

    Gage said state's population has been boosted by births. There were 327,000 more births than deaths in California -- and that has helped mask those leaving the state.

    The exodus is in some ways similar to the early 1990s, when a national recession, tumbling housing market and massive cutbacks in Southern California's defense industry at the end of the Cold War prompted 1.2 million people to move to other states.

    But Roth said the trend should be less severe this time because the state's economic problems -- and image problems -- are not as great.

    "It won't be the lasting problem we had in the 1990s," Roth said. "It will go away."

    sharon.bernstein@latimes.com

    paloma.esquivel@latimes.com"
     
  11. targetshooter

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    I did not mean to start any problems i guess i should have added some details like when the ATA dates were picked the reps for sacramento said they had or were getting some land on keifer rd i beieve thats what i guess i should have asked
     
  12. JBrooks

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    The only problem that gun clubs have is that they don't promote the sport. One of the reasons for this is because it is hard work, particularly compared to sitting on your ass complaining about high prices and the demise of trapshooting.
     
  13. Guy

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    targetshooter: Not to worry.....there just seems to be more than our fair share of grown men acting more like old women in this game.....although it's probably spread around most everywhere. I've never understood it.

    I'd suggest you go to the club website, contact an Officer or Director, and ask your questions. We've been placed in a tight spot for awhile, but there's game afoot.....unless, of course, the rantings of this clown NITRO27 inspire you. But he just likes taking potshots from the bushes.

    Guy Hungerford, Director Sac Trap
     
  14. targetshooter

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    WGH nitro 27 is just showing his ignorance, i was simplly wondering where you stood on a new site?
     
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