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Runaway Toyota may be BS

Discussion in 'Off Topic Threads' started by andybull, Mar 12, 2010.

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  1. andybull

    andybull Active Member

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    As reported on AOL:

    Did the driver of a runaway Toyota Prius in San Diego tell the truth when he said his accelerator pedal stuck earlier this week? New evidence is calling the driver's credibility into question, although the real answer will not be entirely clear until Toyota and the NHTSA announce the results of their investigation. Details about the driver, James Sikes, leave many wondering if he had ulterior motives for his claims.

    USA Today and Jalopnik.com are directly asking the question as to whether or not he faked the incident, citing previous issues with debt and repeated insurance claims as reason for their doubts.

    The reports indicate that prior to his unintended acceleration incident, James Sikes and his wife -- both realtors -- found themselves grappling with California's notorious housing bubble and filed for bankruptcy in 2008. Reports show they have $700,000 in debt to their names. He already had a motor home, Mercedes-Benz automobile and Dodge Truck repossessed in the proceedings with creditors.

    Among the creditors to whom he owes payments is Toyota Financial Services. Various reports indicate that Sikes is either current with his payments or behind by five months on the 2008 Toyota Prius involved in this week's incident, which has 7,200 miles on it and is valued at $20,494.

    Are All Claims Real?
     
  2. Steve W

    Steve W Well-Known Member

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    Lack of credibility from one particular victim doesn't prove a questionable company innocent.
     
  3. PerazziBigBore

    PerazziBigBore TS Member

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    I would think anyone who could drive.. would figure out what to do in 22 minutes.. Give me a break.. I thought this guy was FOS from the get go..
     
  4. handlepuller

    handlepuller Well-Known Member

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    Yeah, that guy is full of it. Couldn't reach over and put it in neutral then you're all over the tv cameras and newspapers the next day?

    Or how about the lady last week whose 2005 Prius all the sudden took off out of control and she ran into her neighbors landscaping? You think maybe she was on the phone?

    I personally think it's all a bunch of crap.
     
  5. bakergun

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    Boy the winter must be bad cabin fever is bad. Why are we talking about this on a trap shooting forum ?
    Pete
     
  6. markdenis

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    He didn't lawyer up for no reason. I think they already got him. I hope the right prosecutor who hates government motors gets the case.

    Mark
     
  7. stokinpls

    stokinpls Well-Known Member

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    Darn, just when John Edwards was beginning to lick his chops.
     
  8. porky

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    Just so you know that the San Diego Police have issued a statement that they believe the driver of the Prius and have impounded his car. Toyota wanted it and the police wouldn't give it to them.

    I think that the same thing has happened to too many people to say that this is not probable. I do know of one individual who has been in a prison for over a year because his runaway Toyota killed at least two in a car ahead of him. He's getting a new trial I believe based on new evidence such as this.

    And as a side note, Orange County California is suing Toyota for manufacturing cars, that they say, Toyota knew were hazardous. Makes you think of the Pinto all over again.
     
  9. markdenis

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    Pinto, GM gas tanks, Explorer rollovers, and about a million others it seems. I can't believe Comifornia is suing anyone!

    Mark
     
  10. grnberetcj

    grnberetcj Active Member

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    I for one am shocked, appalled and in total disbelief that anyone would attempt to take undue advantage from a unfortunate incident!!

    Sheesh! What's next, possibly trying to convince us trapshooters that skeeters don't wear 3" heels in competition??

    Curt
     
  11. Remstar311

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    I thought that guy issued a statement saying that he has no intentions on suing Toyota. Obviously, that doesn't mean he won't. It seems strange that he would say that if he had a get rich quick scheme in mind.
     
  12. short shucker

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    Markdenis,

    You need to review your statement a little. GM never had any gas tank issues. It was a trumped up bunch of sh*t done by a TV news show, Dateline I believe, to show an issue that didn't exsist. They used model rocket engines to ignite the fuel spill in a certain type of accident and then it was only successful in part of the tests. They pulled out rusty trucks from junk yards in Indiana for this mockery of journalism.

    Dateline had to pay a lot in fines and it cost people their jobs for reporting that the way they did. They even had to publically apologize for the report stating how it was staged and that was the only way they could get any sort of ignition.

    Ford has had a long history of "Roman Candle" vehicles. First it was the Pinto, then it was the Crown Vic's and the ambulances. The list goes on from there.

    I believe there is a lot of issues with these "hybrid" vehicles that will start seeing the light of day. It's new technology and with it comes teething problems. The first to market isn't always the winner. Here's a few examples:

    DeHaviland Comet. First of the high altitude, jet engined, pressurized civilian aircraft to hit the market. It revolutionized civilian aviation until they started falling from the sky because of cracks in the fuselage that caused massive depressurization and airplanes breaking apart in flight. Boeing was the big winner here.

    Airbus A320. They had one of the first civilian fly-by-wire planes for passenger duty made. They experienced all sorts of electronic problems that caused quite a few of them to "lawn dart" before they figured out what was going on.

    The same thing happened to the F/A 18 Hornet when it was being introduced to the military pilots. The electronics on that plane was trusted to Lucas of all companies. Hell they couldn't get a Triumph motorcyle or MG right. They didn't refer to them as the "Prince of Darkness" for nothing.

    I won't even start to discuss the Big Three and their first attempt's at front wheel drive vehicles. Man was that ever ugly!

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  13. K-GUNS

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    GM gave me 500 bucks for the 75 chev truck tank issue.I can't remember weather it was for use on a trade or some kind of voucher but I remember getting something and the number 500 sticks to it.
     
  14. short shucker

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    crab,

    They had to do that to appieze the feds (NTSB). There has never been a single study that said that having fuel tanks outside of the frame rails caused fires in accidents.

    Now, was it a good design? You tell me. Semi tractors and a lot of other commercial vehicles are built this way to this day.

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  15. trapshootin hippie

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    Shortshucker, just for the record, when was the Big 3's first attempt at front wheel drive? I can't remember back that far.


    Gne J
     
  16. Setterman

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    I thought the guy with the Prius was acamera hog right from the get go. C'mon, a guy that age can't stop that little car in 22 minutes????
     
  17. TOOLMAKER 251

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    I had a 1967 Olds Toronado front wheel drive. Cords were in the 30's
     
  18. oldgahchamp

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    How about GM converting a 350 gas engine. By convert, I mean they put in glow plugs and diesel injectors. What a POS. Some people got new GAS engines. Not me. Once it was "in the shop" for 3 weeks waiting for 2 new cyl heads. This was 30 years ago and I still remember the a-hole zone reps name. Larry Evans
     
  19. markdenis

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    Short Shucker

    http://www.safetyforum.com/gmft/

    The research is plenty. This is just one.

    Mark
     
  20. halfmile

    halfmile Well-Known Member

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    I don't think you can stick it in neutral if the computer won't let you, as in when you are going forward at 80 plus.

    Damn things are shift by wire I believe.

    HM
     
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