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Rules question?

Discussion in 'Shooting Related Threads' started by slide action, Jun 9, 2013.

  1. slide action

    slide action Well-Known Member

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    At a couple of shoots lately I have seen cases where the actual runner ups are "FORCED" to take or shoot off for catagory. My understanding of the rules was that a runner up "could" take or shoot off for Cat., but, couldn't "fall back" to cat. if he lost a shoot off. In these cases however, even though they had the runner up score,they were "FORCED" to take or shoot off for Cat., leaving a lower score to take runner up! Can't find where it is "manadory' for a Cat. shooter to take Cat. over runner up. What is the OFFICAL rule on this?
     
  2. BigM-Perazzi

    BigM-Perazzi Well-Known Member

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    D. ATA TROPHIES
    1. Only one (1) ATA trophy shall be awarded to any one (1) person in any separate event. This means a contestant may not win both an ATA special category trophy and an ATA champion, runner-up/place, class, or yardage trophy Trophies not provided by the ATA to States/Provinces or Zone are exempt from this rule. Please see Paragraphs E. and H. of this section.

    2. A chair shooter whose score qualifies them for more than one (1) ATA trophy must notify shoot management as to which trophy he/she desires to accept or shoot for. The shooter must make his/her declaration after the scores for each EVENT are posted and before entering in to any shoot-off/carry-over. The maximum time allowed for such declaration shall be made by shoot management, within a range of 15 to 45 minutes, and published in the shoot program. If not published in the program, the time shall be 15 minutes. This declaration should be made at a place specified by shoot management. If the shooter fails to make a declaration within the specified time, shoot management shall assign “Chair” as the choice.

    3. Any shooter who is tied for event Champion may shoot-off/carry-over
    for the Championship trophy. If a shooter fails in the championship
    trophy shoot-off/carry-over and has declared a special category at
    the time of classification, the shooter will fall back to the declared
    special category.

    4. Any shooter who has declared a special category at the time of
    classification and whose score qualifies for any trophy in his/her
    declared category, will compete for the category trophy and not for
    place, class or yardage group.

    5. Any special category shooter whose score does not qualify for a
    trophy in his/her category, may compete for place, class or yardage
    group trophies.
    Once any declarations have been made either by a shooter or shoot
    management, the declaration is final and cannot be changed. There
    shall be no exception to this rule.
     
  3. Shawn

    Shawn Member

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    Remember the rules quoted by BigM are only when shooting for ATA trophies.

    For club trophies the club gets to make the rules.

    Shawn
     
  4. BigM-Perazzi

    BigM-Perazzi Well-Known Member

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    Yep, and then only where the ATA says so, like the Grand, or satellite Grands..
     
  5. Hap MecTweaks

    Hap MecTweaks Well-Known Member

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    BigM is correct but a lot of clubs are using that same method for smaller shoots also without ATA supplied trophies.

    Hap
     
  6. BigM-Perazzi

    BigM-Perazzi Well-Known Member

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    I carry the rule book on my phone......

    along with the USPS firearms shipping rules...
     
  7. Hap MecTweaks

    Hap MecTweaks Well-Known Member

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    BigM,company rules?

    "Remember the rules quoted by BigM are only when shooting for ATA trophies.

    For club trophies the club gets to make the rules."

    I too have offered up such advice on ATA rules only to be told of club policy concerning trophy dispersement. Some do, some don't when no ATA awards are offered as Shawn pointed out above.

    Hap
     
  8. BigM-Perazzi

    BigM-Perazzi Well-Known Member

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    "we don't need no stinkin' rules"

    Hah!
     
  9. Hap MecTweaks

    Hap MecTweaks Well-Known Member

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    "we don't need no stinkin' rules" LOL

    Jim, I heard that same song in the 80s concerning angle settings also! The fat lady continues today but humming along instead.

    Hap