1. Attention: We have put together a thread with tips and a tutorial video to help with using the new software. Please take a moment to check out the thread here: Trapshooters.com Tutorial & Help Video.
    Dismiss Notice

Rules question

Discussion in 'Shooting Related Threads' started by Kevin Nelson, Sep 13, 2010.

Thread Status:
Not open for further replies.
  1. Kevin Nelson

    Kevin Nelson Member

    Joined:
    Jan 29, 1998
    Messages:
    213
    A shooters gun breaks during the third trap, shooter goes ahead and finishes that trap, tells the squad to go ahead and shoot without out him and he will make it up later when gun is fixed, gets gun fixed in about and hour and then shoots his last trap by himself, is this legal? By the way, he ends up winning the event by one bird.
     
  2. Ahab

    Ahab Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Jan 29, 1998
    Messages:
    3,650
    Yes!
     
  3. Neil Winston

    Neil Winston Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Jan 29, 1998
    Messages:
    7,848
    Yes. . . . and whether it is legal or not does not depend on whether he won or not.

    Neil
     
  4. BigM-Perazzi

    BigM-Perazzi Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Jan 29, 1998
    Messages:
    8,542
    Location:
    HELL, MICHIGAN
    And, it's available to anyone!!!

    Jim C
     
  5. grntitan

    grntitan Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Mar 25, 2009
    Messages:
    17,194
    Location:
    IL(The gun friendly Southern Part)
    It is one of the reasons they have Make-Up traps reserved at larger shoots.---Matt
     
  6. JOND

    JOND TS Member

    Joined:
    Jan 29, 1998
    Messages:
    284
    How long a time frame does he have to complete his last make-up round of 25 birds? JOND
     
  7. grntitan

    grntitan Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Mar 25, 2009
    Messages:
    17,194
    Location:
    IL(The gun friendly Southern Part)
    Would need to be made up before shoot-offs that day so all can be settled. Most make-up traps close before the shoot-offs start.
     
  8. Kevin Nelson

    Kevin Nelson Member

    Joined:
    Jan 29, 1998
    Messages:
    213
    Just curious what the rule was, had never seen this happen before.
     
  9. MTA Tom

    MTA Tom Active Member

    Joined:
    Jan 29, 1998
    Messages:
    1,301
    The Michigan Trapshooting Association program says:

    "Any shooter missing all or part of a round should report to the practice traps for a make-up sheet, and make up the round(s) there no later than 30 minutes after the last squad in that event has completed the event. Make-up rounds will be shot alone or with other make-up shooters. If the make-up is not started within 30 minutes after the event, all targets not fired at will be scored zero."
     
  10. Recoil Sissy

    Recoil Sissy Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Jan 29, 1998
    Messages:
    2,644
    JOND:

    Unless the shoot program specifies a time limit for completion of make up targets, shoot management makes the decision.

    Management's responsibilities include conducting events in an orderly fashion and posting the results in a timely manner. While they generally try to accomodate shooters as best circumstances allow, make ups targets "should" normally be completed by the end of the event in which break down occurred.

    I've never seen management voluntarily delay the posting of final scores once score sheets are received by the office and entered.

    sissy
     
  11. hoosier

    hoosier TS Member

    Joined:
    Jan 29, 1998
    Messages:
    1,257
    MTA Tom, Are you saying that if my gun breaks on my last shot of the third trap, I have 30 minutes to shoot my last 25 or I will have a zero for all the targets on that 25?
     
  12. tanda1

    tanda1 Active Member

    Joined:
    Jul 30, 2009
    Messages:
    716
    Location:
    Central Illinois
    Hoosier, only if you were on the last squad...."no later than 30 minutes after the last squad in that event has completed the event"
     
  13. ric3677

    ric3677 Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Jan 29, 1998
    Messages:
    3,511
    Location:
    Montana
    Hoosier,

    He states all targets not fired at. The rest are scored as shot.

    Rick in Mt.
     
  14. scott calhoun

    scott calhoun Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Jan 29, 1998
    Messages:
    1,413
    Location:
    Chicago area
    MTA Tom is correct, but it needs further clarification . . .

    If you drop out of a squad mid-trap (sub-event) then if you don't make up the rest of the targets they will be scored as lost (i.e. shot the first 15 and were straight, gun breaks and you don't make up the targets you will be reported as 15x25). However, if you are in the middle of the event (i.e. your gun breaks on the 2nd 25, you will only be scored for the sub-events that you started (i.e. x out of 50, not x out of 100).

    Scott
     
  15. BigM-Perazzi

    BigM-Perazzi Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Jan 29, 1998
    Messages:
    8,542
    Location:
    HELL, MICHIGAN
    Hoosier

    It means you have until 30 minutes after the event is completed. That means the last shooter on the last squad has fired his final round...


    Jim
     
  16. RickN

    RickN Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Sep 17, 2008
    Messages:
    3,043
    Location:
    Minnysoda
    Scott, most places that I shoot you will be scored on the sub-events that you finished.
     
  17. scott calhoun

    scott calhoun Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Jan 29, 1998
    Messages:
    1,413
    Location:
    Chicago area
    Rick -

    That is what I was trying to say - once you start a sub-event you are on the hook for all the targets in that sub-event. If you don't shoot them they are lost. But there is no score for sub-events that you don't shoot.

    BTW, regarding most of the place you shoot doing it that way. It's an ATA rule.

    Scott
     
Thread Status:
Not open for further replies.