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Right Rotator Cuff Torn - Surgery? Trap Shooting?

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  1. blade819

    blade819 Well-Known Member

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    Learned today that I might have a right rotator cuff tear. Will get an MRI next monday. Is this the result of trapshooting I wonder? My guess is old age though. Has anyone had surgery performed on their rotator cuff? Should I try to rehab it before I decide on surgery?

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  2. Bruce Specht

    Bruce Specht Well-Known Member

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    I've had five shoulder surgeries non for a rotator cuff it's the only thing that was any good. Try rehab first, in many cases it works I have a good friend that has had to bad tears and his ortho sida rehab. He got his tear from lifting to much weight. Be consistant and take a bit of time off shooting. My friend with the two bad tears and I will be shooting tonight weather permiting
     
  3. Ahab

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    Yup and nope!

    Have a friend that had surgery....now he has linited use and strength in that arm.

    Me...I tore mine when I fell and broke the fall with my right hand...partially tore a muscle. Doc gave me a choice of rehab or surgery...I asked him what is the success rate of surgery, he admitted 50/50! So we started rehab which was mostly using a rubber bungee type thing.

    As I sat there doing my excercises, it dawned on me that it was exactly the same as using my PW loader. threw away the rubber thing and now have over 30 flats all loaded and ready to shoot!
     
  4. hmarlowe

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    I had a torn rotator cuff caused by a bone spur. In my case the exercise would have hurt not helped.
    After your MRI you will be able to make a decision.
    I have had a bone spur removed from both shoulders the spur was tearing the cuff and the longer it is put off the longer the recovery.
     
  5. JRW

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    I had complete tear right shoulder with surgery to repair it. Then came rehab, I cut corners and cheated with the rehab. Hurting only myself, if you rehab do what the person tells you to do. Do not cheat. Jerry in MI.
     
  6. Beretta687EELL

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    Depends on the length of the tear. If it is tiny, therapy can help. Shooting didn't do it, likely came from some type of overhead arm movement that was sudden and uncontrolled.

    If the tear is large enough to require surgery, the therapy won't help until after the surgery. If you have to have the surgery the therapy afterwords is extremely important to your recovery. As Jerry mentioned above do exactly what the therapist tells you, no more, no less.

    BTW your recovery will not be 100%, you will have shoulder issues for the rest of your life. I've had both of mine done and I had the surgery when the shoulder issue was interfering with my life too much. I would have it done again, if required. Bill Malcolm
     
  7. RickA

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    Had a tear repaired back in January of this year. The one thing I will caution you on is this. Do what the doctor says!!! If you don't trust him find one you do. I've seen them go both ways. Mine was caused by the labrum being wore which formed a bone spur. The spur ate the rotator up and turned it to hamburger but not to the point that it was torn completely through. They fixed it and it works good enough to shoot trap again and thats all I care about.
    My dad tore his twice and now has enough scar tissue to limit mobility(age also is a problem but limited mobility nontheless)
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  8. Remdog1187

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    Blade,

    I've had two right shoulder rotator cuff arthro procedures since Jan 09 (1) due to bone spurs that caused the tear (2) due to post surgery injury. I started shooting in June with pain. It will eventually subside and you will gain your coordination slowly. I use an 1100 with 7/8 oz.

    Advice: Get several opinions from qualified ortho surgeons. Listen carefully to what they tell you. If you opt for surgery, rehab is most important. Work with a great physical therapist. Try hydrotherapy! Make sure you do the excercises religiously to avoid frozen shoulder. Remember that all injuries and people are different. No matter what you are told about rehab times and recovery, it's not universal for all patients. I'm 50 with large shoulders and it has taken me much longer than advised. Try to be patient and you will be back in action!

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  9. Big Jack

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    I woke one morning with a right arm that I was unable to raise. Diagonised as a complete rotator cuff tear attributed to a fall over ten years ago that supposidly started the whole mess. After ortho surgery I was informed that they were unable to reconnect some of the muscles due to fraying and extreme retraction. Now, after a couple months of rehab, I have limited use of the upper arm & still haven't shot trap since January, can't raise a gun to the shoulder. Now the surgeon is trying to sell me a complete shoulder replacement. I'm seventy years old and just can't see the benefit of the time & pain. Maybe it's time to hang up the guns and take up serious drinking.

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  10. fssberson

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    I tore both shoulders playing softball. I couldn't raise my arms above horizontal. That's when I took up trapshooting! Took almost a year for them to heal. No problems now.

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  11. ive never ran um

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    had my right one done march 9th this year and i am still not 100% started shooting at the Kansas State Shoot in June but very limited, i can now shoot all i want with no problems, only complaint i have i can not sleep the position i want to.
     
  12. Dr.Longshot

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    I tore my right rotator cuff trying to catch a water heater I had taken out, doctor said surgery and no trapshooting, I said I will think about it. Thought 10 seconds and said no surgery and I will be trapshooting, 3 months of nursing my shoulder and went back to trapshooting, and hardly any problems, now AUTHUR steps in once and a while, arthritis that is, take a naprosyn for pain and add
    cold and heat alternating and it is OK again.



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  13. Release Trigger

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    Blade,

    I am 14 weeks into recovery from Total right shoulder replacement (had left total in June 07) not a lot of fun but the big advantage is all the pain is gone, arthritis is a bitch.

    Doc say's cannot shoot for 12 months, but he also said we will asses it at 6 months.

    I am flying over to the US in October to pick up my new Pat McCarthy Stock (Stock-Lock system)hopefully this will enable me to shoot for many years to come.

    Listen to your surgeon he is the man, I was told in 1996 I would eventually need both shoulders replaced but Doc warned hold out as long as I could as they are making advances in the surgery and the longer I wait the better.

    Left shoulder is like new, and right will be after long constant physio, get on and do what you have to do, life is short, do not die wondering what if.

    Regards,

    Release Trigger........Downunder.

    Had to miss this years Grand due to surgery but watch out next summer.
     
  14. Quack Shot

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    I've had surgeries on both rotator cuffs. I lost the left one again last year, this time it's for good. No chance of fixing it by today's methods. Your options will depend on exactly what is torn and how badly. See a GOOD surgeon and get a second opinion. If surgery is elected, do the Physical Terrorist thing. It's the most important part of your recovery.
     
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    I have had a tear in my shooting shoulder for I don't know how long. When it started to affect my shooting, I went throught the whole 9 yds...cortizone shots, MRI, physical therapy...finally bought a PFS and put a piece of rubber mat on my shoulder. No pain...no flinch...no problems.

    Good luck.

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  16. gah1999-6

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    I had my right rotator cuff repaired two years ago. I suggest that you find a sports medicine surgon that has a good reputataion and he will have a therapist that he works with. The therapy is most important also the post surgery instructions. Also the recovery takes a lot of time , so be prepared for the long haul. Trapshooting, not a problem, altho it dosen't cure your bad habits. Good luck.

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  17. blade819

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    Thanks to everyone for the advise/opinion. I'll keep my fingers crossed. Right now the only severe pain that I have, other than stretching all the way, is when I try to lay on my right side while sleeping. But the final straw was last week while at a Jimmy Buffet concert I took a whack at a stinkin beach ball and almost pee'd my pants from the pain. Shooting hasn't bothered me yet, I'll see if that's still the case this weekend. Once again, thanks to all for the feedback, I'll keep you posted on the diagnosis.

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  18. blade819

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    An update. I had my MRI yesterday and return to the Doc tomorrow. I shot 75 rounds last Saturday and after I got use to the impact, my shoulder actually felt better. Go figure it. Anyway, all... keep your fingers crossed.
     
  19. blade819

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    An update. A torn Labrum which can be repaired by authoscopic surgery. There is a slight tear in the cuff and bicep but not serious enough to warrant "open" surgery. I've decided to have the Labrum repaired this winter. Oh yea... was told by the Doc to probably not shoot until repaired. My response... sorry. Thanks to everyone for their advise and experiences. By the way, the primary cause is " just 62 years of wear and tear".

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  20. mx8dave

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    I go in for my MRI on friday ,,they will discuss whats needed the following week when the results are back ,,,thanks for all the input ,,,I am able to shoot ,,can not raise my arm or reach behind me ,,,thanks again ,,D.Lang
     
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i have a rotator cuff tear also pectorall tear both on same arm seventy five years old at this age do i rehab or have su