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Republicans are awesome - we should be proud!

Discussion in 'Politics, Elections & Legislation' started by crusha, Jun 2, 2013.

  1. crusha

    crusha TS Member

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    Folks, something remarkable just happened, which we have not seen most of our lifetimes. A great anniversary just passed. Did you notice it?


    We just completed an entire Quarter living under Sequester cuts.


    Don't look now, but the Republican Party, aided by a backbone transplant from the Tea Party, just won a budget battle! And - the world did not end. It's true...we did not sail off the edge of the Earth. It turns out that there is Life After Cuts - after all.


    Now you can quibble over whether they were actually "cuts," or just something less than the Democrats' desired rate of growth. But, the point is, we stood up to the Democrats in a message battle over the budget - and won. They served us up the old Bill Clinton "shut down the government" cream pie, and we stuffed it right back in their faces.


    How did this happen? Well, first let's talk about how it did _not_ happen. It didn't happen with Arlen Specter's statesmanlike deal-making in the Senate (he was primaried out, remember?). It also didn't happen with the likes of Charlie Crist making deals in the House of Representatives. It didn't happen via any of the traditional Republican playbook maneuvers of the last 4 decades. This victory wasn't handed to us by the likes of John McCain, Lindsey Graham, or Bob Dole (who has been taking to the airwaves of late, wringing his hand and bemoaning the sudden and unexplained appearance of backbone in the Republican House, a phenomenon he and his "Greatest Generation" cohorts seem unable to comprehend).


    Consensus, Compromise, Statesmanship, Shared Vision, Bipartisanship, Working Together, and Licked Fingers Held In the Air played no role in this. (And, I should point out, neither did Gary Johnson, Lenora Fulani, Lyndon LaRouche, Ross Perot, or any of those other "third-party" banner carriers, who were all sitting on the sidelines in this endeavor, licking their wounds and "waiting for next time," as usual).


    No, it happened because the Republicans in the House, sparked by just a handful of Tea Party types, strung John Boehner over a political barbed-wire fence, and had the courage to say, simply, "No" to the other side. And, gave their cat-herding leadership no option to say otherwise.


    Folks, having your party reside in the White House isn't all it's cracked up to be. We had that for four years under Reagan, and again under Dubyah Bush, but never came close to anything like this. So I say, screw Bob Dole. And Arlen Specter, and the whole bunch of them. We can do this much better without you.


    There has been a lot of complaining about the Republican Party, here and elsewhere. So I think it's proper to give credit where it is due, when a job is done and done well. This is what it takes. And if we continue to elect the right people, and show that the world will not come to an end, it can happen again.


    So what have you learned as a result of this civics lesson?


    (Because there is a Quiz coming up in 2014, you know...and since the low-information Frito-munching Soccer Moms and Fantasy Football Dads probably won't show up - your voice counts double there!).
     
  2. Catpower

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    We gotta get every conservative we know voting in 2014, both primaries and elections
     
  3. HSLDS

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    Republicans, as a party - we need to stop being a divisive group. The issue is not are you pro abortion or anti abortion, it's not your view on religion or gun control. It's not how you perceive the Tea Party. As long as we think that way we will risk loosing every time to a Liberal.

    We need a new slogan - something like "We want America back!"

    We need a new direction - work TOGETHER as a group to oust the liberal/socialist machine that is perverting our education system and our land.

    Once done we can look at the specifics, but for now we need to put our differences aside to stand against a larger enemy.

    Food for thought...
     
  4. crusha

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    Abso-tively.


    And it can be done.
     
  5. Catpower

    Catpower Molon Labe TS Supporters

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    HSLDS you are so correct, and another thing is if you are being interviewed and the reporter brings up abortion, for Christ's sake change the subject to basket weaving if necessary

    It cost us at least two senate seats the last time, and probably more
     
  6. Rocketdog

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    More dead meat on the table
     
  7. rpeerless

    rpeerless Well-Known Member

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    The Socialists have been chipping away at Liberty since when??? Conservative take back isn't going to happen overnite in a 'confused' and now 'dependent on food stamps' Nation.

    Conservatives better start with an inexpensive and effective take back plan. Maybe start with putting papers on cars in parking lots to inform the low information voters.
     
  8. HSLDS

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    rpeerless,

    While you are right in theory a better method is to continue pushing for the voter ID laws so many of which were blocked in the last election cycle. For all 50 states.

    When a person can be proud of voting 10 or 11 times there is a real problem.

    Stop the voter fraud and Republicans stand a chance.

    Once that is done tighten up the immigration rules (i.e., stop the influx of 'illegal' Democratic votes).

    A start at least.
     
  9. rpeerless

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    HSLDS,
    You've hit the nail on the head but those investigations require big bucks and long hours.
    In the mean time what else can be done?
    I agree about immigration as well, the dems should stop wasting expensive paper and costly hours and hire more border patrol to enforce existing laws solidly.
    Republicans should be calling for this with unrelenting voices and should NOT compromise.
    This will have a snowball effect to remedying other problems. One can almost guarantee it. And no amnesty, undocumented dems have benefitted enough already from the sweat off our brows.
     
  10. Bisi

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    2014 - will that be before or after Rubio and the gang of 8 get the 1000 page immigration bill passed?

    Obama and his IRS audits of conservatives and Republicans is killing fund raising for GOP candidates. That is what I've been told anyway. You going to donate any money or write a check if it could lead to an audit?? This IRS "scandal" was tailor made for Obama. He knows nothing is going to happen to him and it could get him the house in 2014 by a lack of money in the Grand Old Party coffers.

    I hope I'm wrong, but I believe it is over. The Fat lady stepped out onto the podium in 2012.
     
  11. Trappy12

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    The economy is going up, Obama's approval ratings are steady despite recent events, and everybody hates the Republican congress. I think for the first time since '98 we will see the incumbent party gain house seats.

    Anyways, thankfully all of you are a tiny and dying minority, or America would go to crap. I'm already stuck dealing with enough of all your screw-ups. Please, stop making it worse for me. Your backwards logic and fundamental misunderstanding of anything resembling facts, or economics and the affect such policies you support affect the economy, is really doing a great job of dropping America's standard of leaving, GDP per capita (how many of you knew that we do not have the highest GDP per capita, we're actually tenth, I bet none), have a horrible public education system that is lagging behind hugely to countries that are overtaking us and will continue to do so if you nimrods keep trying to cut education spending, which is undoubtedly the most important contributing factor to a country's future success.

    -Trappy
     
  12. Catpower

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    Glad to hear you will be happy to be paying for you fearless leaders spending there Trappy, they have indoctrinated you real good that you can spend your way out of debt, press on young one that knows it all
     
  13. Trappy12

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    Fearless leaders? I believe you guys are much more guilty of putting a "fearless leader" on his throne, i.e. Reagan. Last year I voted Obama. One of the biggest reasons? Because if Romney was elected, he would have cut Pell Grants. And guess what? That would have made me unable to complete my last year of college.

    Oh, by the way. Budget was fine until Reagan BLEW IT UP with defense spending, and W. drove it off a cliff with his two wars. Where were you guys yelling and screaming about the budget deficits then?

    Hypocritical sheep.

    -Trappy
     
  14. HSLDS

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    HE'S BACKKKKKKK

    Well, let's see. You willfully voted for someone who now unabashedly wishes to trash the Second Amendment and turn over the sovereignty of our firearms rights to the UN?? (see Thomas Sowell - http://jewishworldreview.com/cols/sowell040413.php3)

    Regan trashed the economy??

    Read your history books, not what they show on TV. Up front Regan stated that to defeat Russia we must bankrupt them. He also stated that it would come close to doing the same to us, but if we succeeded that in 6 to 12 years the economy would recover to a degree not seen in years (FYI - this explains the prosperity under Clinton - it had NOTHING to do with him and everything to do with Regan).

    The economy is NOT 'going up.' What you see are institutional investment entities with lots of cash on hand needing a place to park it. If the economy is so great - go get a mortgage...

    Education lags for one reason, and one reason only - a Socialist attempt to subvert the US from within -

    http://www.breitbart.com/Big-Government/2013/05/28/How-Did-The-Educated-Become-So-Ignorant

    Student loans have been around for years - Romney didn't want to do away with them, he wanted to attach an authority to allow for recovery from the recipients who refused to pay them back - thus denying future students funds to pay for their educations (if you leave no money 'in the bank' there is nothing for future generations)

    Go get a life...
     
  15. birdogs

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    Trappr,

    Practice your goose step. You will need is soon!
     
  16. Bisi

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    Yeah, Catpower they did a real good job. We can't deny that. Trappy sucked it up like a Hoover vacumn.
     
  17. Catpower

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    Trappy you are just one of the miserable freeloaders, you will sell the country down the drain just so you can get your miserable welfare check on the backs of the working people, at one time I gave you some slack, but you are just another welfare hog with all four feet in the trough
     
  18. Catpower

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    Trappy why don't you join the military and earn you college degree?

    Yeah that would be a real problem wouldn't it, it would be something that you wouldn't want to do, and anyway you have no moral problem with having strangers foot the bill for you welfare degree

    Your mentality is exactly why this country is in the shape it is, you want no responsibility
     
  19. Trappy12

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    Catpower your ignorance is astounding. I've had a steady job since I was 16 (different jobs) and now I'm with a very powerful firm in downtown Chicago that is a key to our capitalistic economy. Largely putting myself through college, getting some assistance, but the bulk of it I'm paying for. I am responsible for my own living expenses and you call me a freeloader? Please. Show me where that is. The money I have received to further my education in the form of Pell Grants and government subsidized loans I will repay hundred, if not thousandfold over my tax paying days. And of course scholarships, though I'm sure I didn't actually earn those, right? I'll bet that my work ethic makes yours look like a panhandler on the street corner.

    HSLDS, you can keep your history books, I'll keep looking at my economic data. Reagan stated? Reagan said? Well that's great, because you sure are demonstrating your uncanny ability to think for yourself. How did Reagan have a hand in the tech boom? This one ought to be great...
    The economy IS going up. GDP is growing and unemployment is shrinking. Sounds like growth. Personally, I believe equities are inflated as the Fed's QE policies allow for CEO's to have basically free money for investment and as Wall Street favors CEO's that maximize shareholder revenue in the short-run rather than the long-run, they are using those essentially free dollars to boost up their share value which does not have much of a positive effect on the economy as a whole, just the top-end firms and white-collar jobs. Shows the load of you know what that your precious trickle-down economics is. That said, the DOW that you see is the nominal DOW, and the real DOW is actually not too inflated, so yes, the economy is growing.

    Socialist attempt to subvert the US from within? Damn, dude. What drugs were you hitting during the 60's? Sheep sheep sheep sheep sheep. All of you blind sheep who wouldn't know a fact from Rush Limbaugh if it flew in your face.

    Also, I said Pell Grant, not student loans. They are different. Though, on the subject of Romney and student loans, he wanted to double the interest rate. Really doing a great job of discouraging students from hard-working middle class families from attending college. That's exactly what this country needs.

    -Trappy
     
  20. HSLDS

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    Trappy,

    Your statement on the "GDP per capita" (actually the PPP) which is based on rather shaky data - as reported by those who make the calculations - is suspect at best.

    Just look at the countries above the USA and three stand out as obvious falsehoods - Macau, SIngapore, and Hong Kong. Brunei, Bermuda, and Qatar are also suspect.

    All of these countries limit residency and/or citizenship so those financially less well healed do NOT figure into the data. A true instance of 'haves' versus 'have-nots.'

    So this is what you want for the USA?

    We still have the highest GDP (don't let the European Union trump us on that - they remain a loose coalition - not a stand alone country).
     
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