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remington using dheddite primer?

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  1. jbmOU

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    Lately on the remington black 1oz game loads, I have been noticing that they are using a primer that looks exactly like a cheddite, and I occasionally even get a burn through like with a cheddite. Is remington using cheddites to keep the cost of the game loads down?
     
  2. Quack Shot

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    It could very well be the case. I have seen the silver colored Federal 209A change to a copper color recently. I have also seen some Remington UMC hulls that look like they were manufactured by RIO. As long as they adjust the powder charge to fit the primer, it's not a big deal. Having a burn through could be a problem and could cause me to use a different shell.
     
  3. trap41

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    Quack shot,

    what is a burn through?
     
  4. grunt

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    Cheddite primers use a red sealent over the flash hole. Ive noticed this with the Remington primers used in their factory loads also. You may be right about them using Cheddites.
     
  5. jbmOU

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    At least the use of this primer seems to keep the price down. Cheddites are what I use anyway and very rarely, probably 1 in 100, do I get a burn through.
     
  6. Quack Shot

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    "Burn through" is a commonly used term to describe a pierced or perforated primer. Usually some hot gases escape through the hole. These gases can etch a firing pin and will usually destroy a titanium pin or bolt/breach face insert.
     
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    I have used maybe 30,000 Cheddites and am yet to experience my first "burn through", most go out the top barrel of an XT Combo and they all go "bang". Am I just lucky or is my firing pin the correct length?
     
  8. joshif

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    If you get a burn through "pierced primer" you're pulling the trigger too hard!
     
  9. Shooting Coach

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    Not only are they using the Cheddite, but also Federal 209A as well. The war effort, and we ARE in a war, is taxing the industry.

    I used the Cheddite for years. I now use Rio primers. They are a little oversized and fit the Diana/Kemen hulls I have an almost unlimited supply of. They also work well in the Remmy promo hulls I get by the barrel at my club.
     
  10. jbmOU

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    I'm surprised that remington would use another companies product.
     
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    I suspect that what you are seeing is not just a Cheddite primer but a Cheddite hull as well. The european model is for a loader to buy coponents and assemble them for his product. Very few manufactrers make their own hull, wad, primer etc as the big 3 have been doing here in the US. I know that Winchester uses Cheddite hulls and primers in some of their loads and the original Estate (prior to the Federal Purchase) used Cheddite hulls and primers so its entirely possible that Remington has done the same.

    TB
     
  12. jbmOU

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    No these are the black game load hulls, exactly the same as gun clubs only black.
     
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